Can I put two other points, then, to both of you?
Last week the former Minister of the Environment, Sheila Copps, who shepherded this legislation originally through the House, wrote in her column that the interdepartmental opposition to an independent environmental auditor general was “so ferocious” that in order to get it through it had to be watered down. The compromise was to create the office administered through the Auditor General's office. That's point number one.
Point number two, with respect to the staff that would be required, the expertise that you referred to earlier, Mr. Desautels, doesn't this commissioner's office in the AG already possess that talent? Aren't we talking here about a more different formal division of staff that is already divided, effectively, in the AG's office? We're not talking here about massive bureaucracies; we're talking about strengthening the existing role of the staff and the budget they possess.