Evidence of meeting #27 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was community.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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John O'Connor  Physician, As an Individual
Andrew Nikiforuk  Author, As an Individual

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I call to order meeting 27 of the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development.

We're joined today by two individuals, Dr. John O'Connor, and by video conference we have Andrew Nikiforuk. Welcome to both of you.

I ask that your opening comments be less than 10 minutes. We'll start off with you, Dr. O'Connor.

9:05 a.m.

Dr. John O'Connor Physician, As an Individual

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

Honourable members, I'm very honoured to be here today and very glad of the opportunity to present my concerns about Fort Chipewyan. My name is John O'Connor, and I'm a family physician currently based in Nova Scotia. My practice is divided between Nova Scotia and northern Alberta.

Since 2001 I've been providing primary care services to Fort Chipewyan, which is a community about an hour's flight north of Fort McMurray, population 1,200, situated on the west end of the northern shore of Lake Athabasca. It's a very beautiful community, far off the beaten track, right on the edge of the Canadian Shield. When I came to the community initially I was told that to be accepted I had to gain the respect and trust of the elders. So I sat for hours and hours listening to them talk, and they're very articulate and eloquent. They told me about their concerns for their community. They told me about their past and their traditions; 80%-plus of the community subsist on traditional ways, so they hunt, fish, gather, and trap.

They talked about what they used to do, often spending days on the lake and on the river fishing, able to scoop water out of the lake and drink it, often spending two to three days on some of the many islands on the lake, boiling water for tea and soup, etc. They also talked about the plentiful fish and ducks, and especially muskrat. People who don't have a lot of money definitely use what they can from the land and no more than that.

They also described how things have changed in recent years, how the water quality had changed. They kept getting back to that: the water had a constant film of oil on it. Often the muskrat they looked for, they could not find, the population dwindling, and they would often find them dead in their lairs. As they skinned them they noticed the flesh was red, and as they said, it looked as if they'd been poisoned. The duck population had diminished. The most curious of all was their description of the changes in the fish and the increasing numbers of fish being pulled from the lake with tumours, deformities, crooked fins, missing parts, crooked spines, and bulging eyes. They would frequently also say that the fish tasted oily, and it wouldn't be fit for consumption.

So that was my background when I arrived in the community. I documented in my time there diagnoses that had been made prior to my arriving in the community, and in the years I was in the community I noticed a very strange situation seemed to be happening. I had a population of about 9,000 patients in my practice in Fort McMurray at the time. So I constantly compared the 1,200 people in Fort Chip with my 9,000 or so in Fort McMurray, and I really wasn't seeing anything of the types of illnesses or the numbers of illnesses that I was seeing....

The one that scared me the most was this cholangiocarcinoma. My father passed away in Ireland in 1993 from this illness. It occurs at a frequency of approximately 1 in 100,000. It's a very aggressive, nasty cancer. It's very difficult to diagnose, and often by the time it is diagnosed, it's too late. The treatment of it itself is almost as bad as the illness, and it is frequently just a palliative procedure.

The other illnesses, both malignant and non-malignant, were, in my experience and in discussions with colleagues in Fort McMurray, unusual, to say the least, for such a small population. I asked a simple question: was I seeing in this community something that was related to the lifestyle? Could it be a genetics issue? Was it simply bad luck? Or could it possibly have been linked to the environmental changes that were very real in the minds of people in Fort Chip?

The community was approached by Health Canada in April of 2006, and one of the very first actions of one of the physicians coming into the community was to come into the nursing station, fill his mouth with tap water, take a big swig, and turn to the Globe and Mail reporter and say, “There's nothing wrong with the water here in Fort Chip.” This was an insult. It triggered a lot of anger in the community.

They went on to say they were going to do a study of illnesses in the community, and they took boxes of deceased files to Edmonton. They told us we wouldn't see them until September.

About six weeks later they arrived back, telling us that everything was fine. They had actually given the information to the Alberta Energy and Utilities Board in Fort McMurray the week before, because that board was being asked questions about any potential health impacts of ongoing tar sands mining. The community was flabbergasted at this. Independent analysis of their findings at that time pointed out that actually what they found showed a 29% higher rate of cancer. The government did not accept this.

They also talked about arsenic and asked the community to send samples of moose meat and bulrushes to Edmonton for analysis. The community had actually heard about this in the newspapers in Fort McMurray a few days before, because industry had warned that arsenic might climb to about 500 times the upper limit of what's considered acceptable. At this point, the community did not trust that the government would come up with anything.

Nevertheless, a few months later samples were sent out for analysis, and of course they came back showing that the levels of arsenic were between 17 and 33 times the upper limit of normal, not 500. This was supposed to be a reassurance for the community.

In 2007 I got a large envelope in the mail from the College of Physicians and Surgeons in Edmonton, and it was not a gift. It was a list of complaints that Health Canada had laid about my activities in Fort Chip. They accused me of blocking access to files, billing irregularities, engendering a sense of mistrust in government in Fort Chip, and causing undue alarm in the community.

I responded to all of these charges, and the College of Physicians gave me the all-clear. A few weeks later the registrar of the college wrote to me saying that the issue of raising undue alarm still wasn't cleared, so I've actually been battling that since then.

In November of 2007, a few months later, Dr. Kevin Timoney, an ecologist in Edmonton, presented a study that he'd been commissioned to do by Fort Chip about their environment. It showed appalling levels of arsenic, mercury, and PAHs, on a par with or greater than what was found off the coast of Alaska after the Exxon Valdez went down. Ongoing analysis shows clearly that these chemicals, these toxins, have an industrial fingerprint. I'm not a scientist; I've read lots about what's documented, much of which comes from Alberta and federal government documentation.

The community has several times--probably four or five times--publicly proclaimed and written to Health Canada and the College of Physicians to tell them that they were never consulted about undue alarm and that they were never consulted, period. They've asked that this charge be withdrawn. They've actually asked Health Canada to fire their senior physician, who was in charge of all this, and this is all completely unsolicited by me. The Alberta Medical Association came out unanimously in support of my activity, saying that I have the right to be a patient advocate, which is all I'm doing.

In February of 2008 the Alberta Cancer Board started a cancer study of the community, a much more comprehensive study. They released their findings in 2009. The preamble told the community that the government had been wrong in 2006 to give the community the all-clear, that there was actually a 30% higher rate of cancer and, in some areas, rare cancers. They suggested ongoing monitoring over the next 5 to 10 years. The community is not accepting of this idea.

At this point, my feeling is that there's been enough evidence accumulated. We know the toxins identified in the environment in and around Fort Chip can cause the illnesses that are occurring in the community. There's been enough scientific discussion and agreement with what's going on. Surely, surely, it's now time--and I believe it's way beyond time--to do a comprehensive health study in this community.

I'm here purely as a simple family physician and a patient advocate. My only concern is the health of this community. I'm not a radical; I am, I guess, an activist now. I'm not political, although I've been accused of it. I'll carry whatever label you want to put on me. I'm a patient advocate, and I will be to the end, and I'm going to see this through no matter what it takes.

Thank you very much.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Thank you, Dr. O'Connor. We appreciate those comments.

Mr. Nikiforuk, could you join us now and give us your opening comments?

9:10 a.m.

Andrew Nikiforuk Author, As an Individual

Thank you very much for the invitation.

I have written about oil and gas issues in Alberta for more than twenty years, and I am the author of Tar Sands: Dirty Oil and the Future of a Continent.

The tar sands, arguably the world's largest energy project, clearly illustrate the troubling nexus between energy and water. It takes water to produce energy, and it takes energy to move, pump, and treat water. Bitumen, a difficult and dirty hydrocarbon, requires more water for its production and upgrading than conventional light oil. As such, its water intensity signals the end of cheap oil as we know it. The bitumen mining process also creates unsustainable volumes of waste water, and I know the committee has heard much about this practice. The rapid and irresponsible development of Alberta's vast bitumen deposits has created several critical problems that I believe are diminishing Canada's reputation both at home and abroad.

Today I wish to draw to the House's attention four areas of concern: the creation of an acid rain problem in Western Canada, the problematic recycling of tailings water, the uncertain state of groundwater in bitumen-producing zones, and the case of Dr. John O'Connor.

Acid rain was once thought to be an environmental concern that only affected eastern Canada, but a 2008 paper by the air quality research division of Environment Canada predicted that some parts of western Canada in the vicinity of large SO2 sources, such as the tar sands or Fort McMurray, were already exceeding critical loads for acid rain. A critical load is an estimate of how much sulphur or nitrogen pollution a tree or lake can absorb before it damages or kills it.

The report called this prediction a concern because the release of acidifying emissions is projected to increase in the next decade in the tar sands. According to Alberta Environment, the province's oil and gas industry now produces a third of the nation's nitrogen oxide emissions and nearly a quarter of its sulphur oxide emissions. These two pollutants make acid rain.

By 2010, the province will produce more acidifying pollutants than any other part of Canada. Most of these emissions will blow into Saskatchewan. These pollutants, which can poison and sterilize forest soils, have already reached critical levels in Alberta and Saskatchewan. According to a 2008 report for the Canadian Council of Ministers of the Environment, upland forest soils downwind of the tar sands currently receive acid deposition levels greater than their long-term critical load. In other words, pollution from upgraders and steam plants is now damaging lakes and soils throughout western Canada.

In 2008 Julian Aherne, a researcher at Trent University, reported to the Canadian Council of Ministers of the Environment that nearly 10% of Alberta's mapped forest soils received acid deposition in excess of critical load. Last year a Saskatchewan study of 148 lakes within a 300-kilometre radius of the tar sands identified that the majority of these assessed lakes were sensitive or highly sensitive to acid rain.

Given these findings and predicted increases in acid emissions from the tar sands, why has Environment Canada not made western Canada's new acid rain problem a national priority? Why didn't the federal government set up a special agency, perhaps modelled after California's successful Air Resources Board, to manage both air pollutants and greenhouse gas emissions from the tar sands?

The committee has heard much about the unsustainable growth of tailings ponds for bitumen mining operations. They are among the world's largest impoundments of toxic waste. According to Alberta's Energy Resources and Conservation Board, these dams now occupy 120 square kilometres of forest land north of Fort McMurray.

Industry and government officials routinely defend their presence by arguing that 80% of the waste water is being recycled. What they fail to add is that the continuous recycling of tailing waste has concentrated pollutants in the water and made a bad problem much worse. According to a 2008 report by Eric Allen of Natural Resources Canada, the recycling of tailings water has increased the salinity of the ponds by 75 milligrams per litre since 1980.

Recent increases in hardness, sulphate, chloride, and ammonia have raised concerns about the corrosion of equipment used for bitumen extraction. Toxic chemicals of concern, of course, in the ponds include naphthenic acids, bitumen, ammonia, sulphate, chloride, aromatic hydrocarbons and trace metals such as arsenic and mercury. In other words, the recycling of tailings water has increased its toxicity, which in turn poses challenges for bitumen extraction, water consumption, and the reclamation of tailings ponds. The paper strongly suggests that all wastewater in the ponds be properly treated.

Steam plants, or steam-assisted gravity drainage, or in situ technology, typically heat up bitumen deposits to 240 degrees Celsius. They have the potential to impact groundwater over an area the size of Florida. In 1973, a report by the Alberta Research Council on the environmental impact of in situ technology recommended constant monitoring to prevent contamination of the groundwater supplies, which may be needed for domestic or industrial purposes. This wasn't done. Many steam plants now operate in an area south of Fort McMurray that is home to one of North America's largest freshwater aquifers, the Wiau Channel.

Neglect of groundwater, like the neglect of surface water in the Fort McMurray region, has been a persistent part of rapid tar sands development. In fact, the Alberta Energy Resources Conservation Board and Alberta Environment didn't release a draft directive on requirements for water measurement, reporting, and use for thermal in situ oil sands schemes until February of 2009. Last month the Council of Canadian Academies released an exhaustive report on the state of groundwater in Canada. A pointed section on the tar sands found regional mapping remained incomplete, that information collected by regulators was inconsistent, and that there was little or no data on cumulative effects of saline withdrawals for the steam plants.

For the record, it takes approximately three barrels of groundwater, fresh or saline, to make one barrel of bitumen. The report concluded that knowledge is lacking as to whether the aquifers of the Athabaskan oil sands region can sustain these groundwater demands and losses.

Last but not least, the case of Dr. John O'Connor raises serious questions about the state of water in the region as well as the dysfunctional nature of Canada's new petro state. Dr. O'Connor, a family physician, worked downstream from the world's largest energy project in Fort Chipewyan for nearly eight years. In 2006, he naively asked some valid questions about the number of rare cancers he uncovered in that aboriginal community. He did not point blame at the tar sands. He did not point blame at the pulp mills on the river. He did not point blame at agricultural run-off. He did not point blame at the abandoned uranium mines on Lake Athabaska. He merely asked for a proper health study.

Nevertheless, representatives of Health Canada, supported by representatives of Environment Canada and Alberta Health have accused this physician of causing undue alarm in the community. They threatened to take away his medical licence by filing a complaint through the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta. For representatives of Health Canada to use a patient complaint process to vilify and persecute a family physician who simply advocated for his patients remains an unprecedented abuse of power in Canada.

This year, the Alberta Cancer Board vindicated Dr. John O'Connor. This study confirmed lymphoma and rare blood and bile duct cancers in the community. It also reported a 30% higher rate of cancers in the community in general than expected, yet Health Canada continues to shamefully persecute this physician and sully Canada's international reputation as a fair and democratic country.

Dr. O'Connor's story is now the subject of three separate international documentaries and scores of stories in the international press. It should be the subject of a public investigation by the Canadian Parliament.

Thank you.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Thank you, Mr. Nikiforuk, and thanks also for staying under your 10 minutes.

With that, Mr. Scarpaleggia, can you kick us off on the seven-minute round?

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Yes. There's a lot of information that has been presented to us. It's hard to know where to start.

Mr. Nikiforuk, you say that Health Canada's complaint against Dr. O'Connor is unprecedented. Are there similar cases where governments have lodged complaints against, say, for example, scientists, within government itself or outside of government? It's a strong claim, unprecedented. It sounds as if it probably is, but are you basing this on a knowledge of the history of complaints that have been brought against physicians?

9:25 a.m.

Author, As an Individual

Andrew Nikiforuk

I know of no other case in which you have three government agencies using a patient complaint process to accuse a family physician of causing undue alarm in a community, and that's the central charge. I know of no other case like that. I think this would be a fair question to ask also of the College of Physicians and Surgeons. From what I've heard off the record, from members of the medical community, this is totally unprecedented.

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

You speak in your book about the RAMP process. And you speak about the evaluation that I think Dr. Rosenberg and Dr. Ayles did five years ago of the RAMP process. They uncovered methodological flaws and so on and so forth. To your knowledge, has the RAMP process since been improved? Is it time for another evaluation of the RAMP process? Whenever we talk about water quality and quantity, we're referred, essentially, to RAMP and their studies. Is there someone doing another evaluation? Should there be someone doing another evaluation? Who should be doing it? Is it something the federal government could legally do, for example?

9:25 a.m.

Author, As an Individual

Andrew Nikiforuk

Yes, I would strongly recommend that the federal government do another analysis of the RAMP process to determine whether it is truly an effective process at this point in time. The 2004 review found so many flaws in how this program had been set up, and found huge gaps in baseline data, and found huge inadequacies in the monitoring.... Many of these inadequacies were later confirmed by RAMP's own technical review committee in 2005 or 2006. There needs to be some independent oversight.

I can't think of very many countries in the world where they would set up the world's largest energy project and would just assume that industry could somehow self-monitor in terms of water quality and quantity. For a country like Canada, I think that's unacceptable.

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

We speak a lot these days of carbon capture and storage. Do you know if that could possibly impact on aquifers in the future, maybe saline aquifers? Should we be careful to study what the impact of carbon capture and storage would be on groundwater around the oil sands?

9:25 a.m.

Author, As an Individual

Andrew Nikiforuk

That's a very good question, and I don't think anyone has any answers to that question at this point in time. There certainly has been a fair amount of testimony recently in the United States and concern about U.S. drinking water and how capturing carbon and putting it in deep saline aquifers might impact groundwater over time. It is an area that requires serious investigation.

Another area of critical interest, in terms of water and carbon capture and storage, is related to the fact that carbon capture and storage is largely a technology that has been designed for coal-fired plants. It will require 30% more energy to capture that carbon and store it. If coal-fired plants are using and burning more coal and using more energy to do this, they will require more water for cooling. So there are implications for water.

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

You mentioned that the recycling of water from the bitumen washing process is causing the level of toxicity of the tailings ponds to increase, as I understand it.

9:30 a.m.

Author, As an Individual

Andrew Nikiforuk

That's correct.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

You said that, therefore, these tailings ponds should be properly treated, or this is what Mr. Allen said in a recent paper, which you quoted. Is there technology to do that augmented level of treatment, or is that still in the experimental phase? In other words, does the technology exist but it is not being applied? Or is it a case of the technology still being experimental?

9:30 a.m.

Author, As an Individual

Andrew Nikiforuk

No, I think there are a variety of water treatment technologies available that could be used effectively to clean this water in the tailings ponds. I think the big issue has been cost.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Dr. O'Connor, if I may go to you, it's interesting to me, as I found out, that you haven't pointed to the oil sands in terms of the damage to the health of the people of Fort Chipewyan. Did I understand correctly that you're not pointing blame at any particular project? That's what Mr. Nikiforuk seemed to be saying.

9:30 a.m.

Physician, As an Individual

Dr. John O'Connor

I've said again and again that I am just a simple family physician.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Could you run through the various studies that have been done? It's getting very confusing for us. We've had people from Health Canada here, and we've heard about the Alberta Cancer Board study. How many studies have been done? You say a comprehensive health study is required. Is that what the Alberta Cancer Board is going to be doing? Are they not going to be doing enough?

How could it be that the Alberta Cancer Board says there's a problem, that the cancers depart from expectation, yet they don't propose to do a comprehensive study? What do you mean by a “comprehensive study”, and who should be doing this?

9:30 a.m.

Physician, As an Individual

Dr. John O'Connor

There are two questions there.

First, on the studies that were done, there was the 2006 deceased-file analysis, which was incomplete. Alberta Health and Health Canada confirmed that. It didn't have complete data, yet they went ahead and gave the community the all-clear. The Alberta Cancer Board, out of the blue, in February 2008 launched a comprehensive cancer study, which I guess was more in-depth; it took a year to do. They concluded in February 2009 that the 2006 study was wrong to give the community the all-clear. In fact, there is a 30% higher rate of cancer in the community. Their terms of reference did not allow them to go beyond that, and their recommendation was for at least ongoing monitoring for the next five to ten years.

The other issue is that a comprehensive health study was actually suggested back in the late 1980s, early 1990s for the very first time, from what I can gather, by scientists who were asked to contribute to the northern river basins study. Andrew would probably know more about this than I do.

I believe at least a couple of times since then.... When I came into the community and saw what I was finding, I was quite concerned. I joined what I didn't realize then was a chorus of people calling for a comprehensive--we were calling it a baseline--health study. In fact, that opportunity is long gone, because we don't have anything near the baseline.

There is no plan, as far as I know, to do any further studies in the community, whether they're cancer related or an overall analysis of the current health of the community. I can't explain why. It's very puzzling.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Your time has expired.

Mr. Warawa, on a point of order.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

I didn't want to interrupt the dialogue, but Mr. Scarpaleggia misquoted the study when he said there was no recommendation for further study. In fact, the conclusion said,

Further investigation is required to evaluate if there is a risk posed by living in Fort Chipewyan. This would be done by tracking a cohort of residents who have lived in the area within the past 20 to 30 years.

As part of an overall assessment of the health status of the community, further analysis should also be done of [the] potential risk factors, such as [lifestyles], family history and occupational and environmental exposure.

In fact they did, and I wanted to clarify the record.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

That's useful, Mr. Chair.

I raised that as a question, and I was looking for the answer. Apparently, Dr. O'Connor says it's not sufficient in terms of a comprehensive study.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I think we're into debate here, but I appreciate having the exact quote on the record.

Monsieur Ouellet.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Christian Ouellet Bloc Brome—Missisquoi, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Nikiforuk, I have several questions to ask you and I would like you to give me brief answers because we have little time.

The oil companies always state that they only draw 1% of the water from the Athabasca River. Have you been able to verify the accuracy of that statement?

9:35 a.m.

Author, As an Individual

Andrew Nikiforuk

The 1% figure is probably accurate for annual flow, but the critical time period is really the winter flow of the river. I think David Schindler has addressed the issue of company withdrawals then being somewhere between 7% and 9% of the flow of the river. That's the critical period, and that's the critical issue for water withdrawals on the Athabasca River--it's during wintertime.