Evidence of meeting #5 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was review.

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9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Good morning and welcome, colleagues.

Welcome, Ms. Deschamps, to the Environment Committee.

To begin, I would like us to accept a request made by Minister Prentice. He would like to correct some mistakes contained in his presentation before the committee, which reads as follows. I will read it in English.

The emissions in North America, in the United States specifically, from coal-burning plants are 70 times the size of the emissions that come from the Canadian oil sands. The total emissions from the Canadian oil sands amount to .005% of the emissions of greenhouse gases from the United States.

That's the relative situation of which we're speaking.

Unless I'm mistaken, he was responding to a question asked by Mr. Bigras.

So he would like to correct that to say that the correct amount is 60 times the size of the emissions that come from Canadian oil sands, and the total emissions from the Canadian oil sands amount to 0.5% of the emissions of GHGs from the U.S.

If we can accept that, we can get on with our discussion of future business.

Yes, Mr. Warawa.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Langley, BC

Did you want a motion to that effect?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, please.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Langley, BC

I move that the correction be made.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Is everyone in agreement?

Ms. Duncan.

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NDP

Linda Duncan Edmonton—Strathcona, AB

With all due respect, that would not be a correct statement. If you're simply comparing the coal-fired of the U.S. with the tar sands perhaps, but one cannot compare the total Canadian to the U.S., because we're not including the Canadian coal-fired then.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Well, that.... Are there any comments on that?

Monsieur Bigras.

9:05 a.m.

Bloc

Bernard Bigras Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Although it was a reply to my question, I agree with the changes. I believe that the issue raised by Ms. Duncan is relevant. If the minister believes that the blues should be corrected, we'll do so. This happens often in the House of Commons. However, if we don't agree with what the minister said, we can debate that later on. But for now, the right thing to do is to correct the situation. Everybody makes mistakes.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

If the minister reads the transcripts of our committee's proceedings—something he probably does every day, I imagine—and decides he wants to add something, he can write to us. Thank you.

So today, I think everyone agrees that we should work on future business. Unless you disagree, I would like us to—

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Langley, BC

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Do we need a formal vote?

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Essex, ON

Well, you asked for a motion.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay, well let's vote. Everyone in favour?

(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

Thank you, Mr. Warawa, for your guidance. It's my first experience chairing a committee, and maybe I'm cutting corners here, so thank you.

This morning, I was hoping we could generally discuss future business without entering into the details, that is, without dotting the i's and crossing the t's. Indeed, the steering committee will do that when it meets next Monday, March 2.

So as far as future business is concerned, my first question is what should we do next Thursday. Since the chair is not here and I will chair that meeting, and because I have a breakfast meeting before that, I would like to ask the committee that the meeting begin at 9:30 or 9:15 rather than 9:00 a.m. That would give me enough time to get here. In any case, the meeting won't last more than an hour. Is that a problem? Fine, thank you.

On the agenda for Thursday's meeting is the order-in-council review of Mr. Bob Hamilton's nomination to the position of Associate Deputy Minister for the Environment. Are there any comments with regard to Thursday's meeting than? No? That's fine.

The second point concerns water and oil sands, that is, the study proposed in a motion several weeks ago. I would like to remind you to give the clerk the names of witnesses you would like to hear so we can discuss them on Monday at the steering committee. Are there any comments on that issue?

I know that Mr. Warawa wanted to talk about committee travel. There was some talk of visiting the oil sands. I propose—and please let me know if you agree—that we discuss the matter at the steering committee—

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan Edmonton—Strathcona, AB

Mr. Chair, on a small point of order, I haven't been advised that there's a Monday steering committee meeting. Is there a meeting set that I've not been informed of?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, we spoke about it in general terms at the last meeting, in the very dying minutes of the last meeting. The notice will go out today, but you will recall that we discussed it—