This is exactly correct, Mr. McKay. It's distressing to me that there are incinerators that are condoned and supported by governments and government agencies. This is precisely the problem. Governments have allowed themselves to be convinced by the smooth talk of the promoters of these poison-producing sites and plants that they are safe, but they are not.
Gasification and plasma are different technologies. This is also something that this company, Entech-REM, and other companies have attempted to confuse the public about. The plant that the Entech-REM company hopes to and wants to put up in Port Hope, which I do not want them to put up, is a gasification plant. Gasification is even more dangerous than plasma or other kinds of incineration because it functions at a slightly lower temperature, and at lower temperatures even more poisons escape. At higher temperatures some of the poisons do get burned and destroyed and can only reform later. But there's no question at all that the plant you're referring to, and every other plant of a similar nature anywhere in this country or anywhere else, is emitting highly toxic, highly poisonous, cancer-producing poisons.
Now, we don't worry about them, we don't concern ourselves about them, because we're constantly reassured that, oh, they're very small amounts being leaked out, and they're within so-called government limits. But the phrase “within government limits” is a very catchy phrase that can very easily confuse people. I'll remind you that cigarettes are also within government limits. Cigarettes are legal, and yet we all know that cigarettes produce cancer. It's a very similar situation here. Governments have not been able to totally ban cigarettes, and governments have not been able to totally ban incinerators—yet—but they should.
The fact that something is within legal limits, and within government guidelines, and within whatever other phrase one wants to use does not mean it's safe. There is no safe limit to any of these poisons. They all are producing cancer. That's why we have a cancer epidemic worldwide.