That's a great question.
Everyone is a little different. North America doesn't have these types of legislated EPR programs. A lot of them are doing it the way we used to do it. As you know, whether or not there is a legislative program, you're getting recycling services. Local governments will always provide those services to their residents. It's just a matter of whether the government is going to legislate an EPR-type model. In the U.S. I think maybe one or two states have gone into EPR. I'm talking now just about packaging, blue-box materials and not other products. The U.S. is not interested in having these mandated programs. They want to continue with the way it is now. In Europe I think 25 EU states have mandated EPR programs and as far as I know they have very similar issues. There's a lack of a coordinated approach and some of the programs are competitive. Some only have one group running the program, so there are pros and cons for both. We're certainly looking at other jurisdictions.
You asked specifically about best practices. It's really difficult to look at some of the better programs. Often people will say Belgium has a very good approach. We're looking at that closely and would be happy to share with you later. I think it depends on what kind of best practices you're looking for: municipal best practices, how they are sorting.... I think you'll talk to certain municipalities that have made a lot of investments and they have the Cadillac version of a recycling facility. You can go somewhere else, and it's the opposite. Business best practices would be closer to looking at how the packaging is made, and how the consumer uses it at the end of the day, considering all the different things that go into it. Some companies are excellent at that. There are a lot of different ways to answer it. It's not the clearest answer.
I'll just leave you with the thought that there's no one clear silver bullet here of the best model, and that is the difficulty.