We did a lot of innovative work a decade ago and that was great. The municipalities wanted to participate in the green fund because we had the ability to pay down the interest rate a little bit. That technique is gone now because of low interest rates. The green fund, talking to people about it now and about its.... This is a fund that has probably most of that information collected within it. It has done all measures of feasibility studies on all techniques for municipalities on waste disposal, on renewable energy, on clean water, sewers, all those things, but it's stalled right now because it doesn't have any financial incentive built into its system to encourage municipalities to do these things.
The idea of the green fund was, of course, that by municipalities accepting a green portfolio on the work that they're doing they would get a preferred interest rate. Their feasibility would be covered. Now there's nothing there anymore. That's a sad fact right now. Do you think we need a new fund to generate interest among municipalities to do the right thing?
We were moving in that direction, but it's not there at the FCM right now.