Evidence of meeting #18 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.
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5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Mr. Doucet left the Prime Minister's office in August 1988. He billed you $90,000 for services in November 1988, and you paid him $90,000 in 1988. Unfortunately, Mr. Doucet did not give that answer under oath, live. He provided a document after the fact. So it's left for us to ask you what that $90,000 was for.
5:25 p.m.
As an Individual
It was that service in 1989. It was service in 1988. I said this earlier in front of the election. And he made sure that Perrin Beatty would put his signature on the document we needed for the second $2 million from Thyssen.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Did anybody else get commission cheques like that, or retainer cheques like that? Did GCI get cheques like that?
5:25 p.m.
As an Individual
The others, yes. There is $250,000 in Gary Ouellet and Gerald Doucet and Frank Moores. Everybody from the shareholders sent a bill. First I was confused because Fred Doucet was not a shareholder from GCI.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Did Fred Doucet's $90,000 have something to do with Bear Head?
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Okay.
On Bear Head itself, we've talked about Bear Head, and we've talked about the bare behind and the bare middle. Now let's get to the heart of the matter.
What was Bear Head worth in revenue to Thyssen?
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
What was the potential worth of that project to Thyssen in revenue?
5:25 p.m.
As an Individual
It would have been a question of roughly $300 billion.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
How much of a commission would have been owed to those who were effective in getting it established?
5:25 p.m.
As an Individual
I don't know exactly, but I have an agreement on that. I think it's about 2% or 3%. If you were to speak about a couple of billions Mr. Mulroney messed up with me, that's correct.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
What do you think the commissions were potentially worth for a successful building and opening of a Bear Head project?
5:25 p.m.
As an Individual
No, no, no, I would have been involved in the sales worldwide as the chairman of the company. I mean, everybody knows about my connections around the world.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Yes. I don't mean sales commissions. I mean the commissions to the persons who were responsible for getting the project built--those types of commissions.
5:25 p.m.
As an Individual
This was my agreement. There was no agreement with them.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Would there have been commissions paid to people who might be responsible for getting Bear Head built?