Evidence of meeting #18 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elmer MacKay  As an Individual
Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

They both said that you were delighted with the progress report.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

He lied. I never got the report from him.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

If he didn't receive his full fee, if it was just....

Well, let me ask you this. Would you acknowledge that he did some work for you, if you paid him that payment?

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

He did no work for you.

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No. I knew nothing about him, because Kim Campbell didn't appear and the other stuff.

Look, I don't want to be impolite. You know that I'm a little bit impatient today, but it is an insult when you say that you can sell NATO equipment to communist countries. Even you should get this in your head. Why are you torturing me with such nonsense? I cannot believe that you believe what you say.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

Forgive me, I may be just a little confused, but--

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, I cannot forgive you. This goes too far for me.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

I think we have a little confusion all around this table. You're saying that there was no work done.

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

There was none at all.

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

He didn't even polish my shoes or hold my umbrella.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

Mr. Chair, I'm going to hand this over to my colleague.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Go ahead, Mr. Wallace.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Mr. Schreiber, you just mentioned a few moments ago that Mr. MacKay is an honest man.

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I interviewed him today as a witness, and he called you a friend. Would you consider him a friend?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Oh yes. I would walk a long, long way for Mr. MacKay.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

My question, then, to you today, sir, is this. When you were here before, we questioned you about the letter you sent to Mr. Mulroney.

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Mr. MacKay said to us today that he provided you with some highlights and that you added to the letter, and then you signed it. But in your previous testimony, you said that Mr. MacKay sent you the complete letter and you signed it, and that you'd “sign anything”.

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

You said that in the last testimony, Mr. Schreiber.

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

It's pure invention.