Evidence of meeting #42 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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An hon. member
I have a point of order.
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An hon. member
Yes, I have a point of order.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Okay, we haven't had a valid point of order yet, so I would ask all the honourable members to be very careful.
Mr. Poilievre, on a point of order.
June 17th, 2008 / 3:50 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
Chair, I notice that the Standing Orders indicate that duplication is not permitted between the work of two committees. Now you have ruled that in this committee their motion is in order—
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Order, order.
This is debate, Mr. Poilievre, again. That's the third point of order that is not a point of order.
Mr. Epp, please.
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Conservative
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Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
I think my last one was, too, by the way. The copy I got of the motion we're debating here says “the committee will broaden their investigations to include the study of these ethical practices and make recommendations to Elections Canada as to whether theses ethical practices ought to be continued”. That doesn't make sense to me.
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An hon. member
That's right, it should be “these”.
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Mr. Epp, I passed on to you this document here. I think you're reading from a copy of a document that—
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
No, no, no, it came from this. It's the one I just got.
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An hon. member
It's a typo, isn't it, unless I don't know how to spell “these”?
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
Theses is the plural of thesis, and I don't know what the thesis is here.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Oh, in Mr. Van Kesteren's hand-written submission to the committee, that's what he gave us and that's exactly what they typed up. You're absolutely correct; there is a spelling mistake there, but not in the official record of the committee, okay? So it's a typographical error, but simply on the submission from Mr. Van Kesteren. We know it wasn't deliberate, but—
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was the plural of thesis.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Thank you for the time.
Now, again, please don't use points of order frivolously. It is not an opportunity just to take the floor and talk. Okay?
Mr. Van Kesteren, please.
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Conservative
Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
You're right, Mr. Chair. I appreciate what you're saying, because when we break our tempo here...and those members who were here at the last meeting recognize that as we began to develop our theme, there was excellent argument that was presented first of all by Mr. Tilson. It's unfortunate that Mr. Tilson isn't here.
I think, Mr. Hiebert, you brought forward some good...and that's what we're trying to do here. Mr. Tilson at the last meeting brought forward some excellent legal arguments. I'm trying to bring forward some good moral arguments. I think we saw that was really being played out well, so I want to continue on.
Mr. Chair, could I have a motion to adjourn?
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Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
Non-debatable.
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An hon. member
Call the vote.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Order.
Can we get order in the room? The chair can't conduct a.... Order, please.
There has been a motion to adjourn. All those in favour of adjournment?