Evidence of meeting #22 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was siksay.
A recording is available from Parliament.
12:30 p.m.
Conservative
Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON
I apologize, Mr. Chair. I'm not sure if this is a point of order, but I cannot find the large document Mr. Siksay was reading from. Does anybody have a copy of it?
Would the clerk have a copy of it? Was it circulated, that first document he's reading from?
12:30 p.m.
An hon. member
She does not have that.
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Conservative
Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON
I don't have Mr. Siksay's motion. I think what I have--
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Well, it's in the transcript of our meetings and it was circulated at the meeting. I circulated it.
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Conservative
Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON
Well, the clerk must have a copy of it, then. It's very difficult to discuss the motion when it's this...
Does Mr. Siksay have a copy of the one the clerk distributed?
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An hon. member
No--
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An hon. member
That's right.
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Conservative
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NDP
Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC
That was the material that was distributed by the chair on the advice of the clerks department a few meetings ago.
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An hon. member
Bill, is it this whole thing...?
12:40 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
We have resumed.
Colleagues, we don't have very much time to deal with this, and going in the usual fashion would be very time consuming. I think if we're going to have some frank discussions, the best thing would be for us to move in camera now. I want to suspend to go in camera.
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A voice
Oh, we're suspended--
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NDP
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An hon. member
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NDP
Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC
Chair, on what basis do you want to do this? This is not a confidential issue. We are discussing a motion that's before the committee. That should be a public discussion. I don't support going in camera. I'll challenge your ruling on that.
12:40 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Okay. I hear you. Mr. Siksay, I think my concern was that in fact the issue and the motion are not secret, but it is the discussion on the motion that is the issue, and that is the normal practice. I've suggested or I'm recommending that we go in camera and I've made a ruling that we move in camera to have the discussion on this motion, but if you would challenge the chair, sir, I certainly will take that motion and we'll deal with it.
Okay. The chair is challenged, so the question is, shall my decision to go in camera be sustained? If you want to go in camera, say yes; if you don't want to go in camera say no.
Call the roll. I hope everybody understands.
(Ruling of the chair sustained)
Okay. We're going in camera. I'll suspend.
Please clear the room if you shouldn't be here.
[Proceedings continue in camera]