Certainly there is some concern, and I appreciate the arguments put forward by U of T. I was at a dinner a couple of months ago at which the president of U of T made the same remark that they needed to concentrate research funding. I, in my closing remarks, also mentioned that we need some special assistance to build up research capacity.
I don't see the two as being mutually exclusive. I think we can have that research excellence across the board. At the same time, I think we have to recognize that in this area, in particular, in the social sciences—not just the R and D, but in the social sciences and humanities—we need to build research capacity. Therefore, in terms, for example, of the indirect costs of research, I think that is a good model. We might vary a little bit with AUCC with respect to that.