Evidence of meeting #42 for Finance in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was industry.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Teresa Douma  Senior Director, Legal Affairs, Canadian Council of Christian Charities
Claire Samson  President and Chief Executive Officer, Association des producteurs de films et de télévision du Québec
Brigitte Doucet  Deputy General Director, Association des producteurs de films et de télévision du Québec
James Knight  President and Chief Executive Officer, Association of Canadian Community Colleges
Pauline Worsfold  Secretary-Treasurer, Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions
Judith Shamian  President, Canadian Nurses Association
Palmer Nelson  President, Canadian Dental Hygienists Association
Zachary Dayler  National Director, Canadian Alliance of Student Associations
Spencer Keys  Government Relations Officer, Canadian Alliance of Student Associations
Paul Brennan  Vice-President, International Partnerships, Association of Canadian Community Colleges
Eric Marsh  Executive Vice-President, Encana Corporation
Andrew Padmos  Chief Executive Officer, Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada
Robert Blakely  Director, Canadian Affairs, Building and Construction Trades Department, AFL-CIO, Canadian Office
David Collyer  President, Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers
Darwin Durnie  President, Canadian Public Works Association
Bernard Lord  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association
Paul Davidson  President and Chief Executive Officer, Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada
Christopher Smillie  Senior Advisor, Government Relations and Public Affairs, Building and Construction Trades Department, AFL-CIO, Canadian Office
Danielle Fréchette  Director, Health Policy and Governance Support, Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Do you want this debated at the beginning of the meeting on Wednesday?

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I'll be talking for two hours.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

There's a shingle blowing in the wind over there.

What did you say, Mr. Chairman?

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Order.

This may be a lengthy debate. We have witnesses for Wednesday, so do you want to debate this motion at the beginning of the meeting?

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

Yes, I think we certainly could do that.

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay. Thank you.

When members bring forward motions, in the past we've tried to work by consensus and gain support for motions, but....

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I had my hand up before.

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

If we're going to have motions, it presents real challenges for the chair. I'm trying to work with all members here.

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I had my hand up earlier.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

The motion did emanate from the response we received from Finance to a previous....

When a committee makes requests to the government, it's not the opposition party that's making the requests; it is a committee of Parliament. When those responses are inadequate or insufficient, it's not an insult to opposition, but an insult to the entire committee.

I think it's an important motion, and it's one that, out of respect, we ought to debate thoroughly on Wednesday--

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you. I don't want to get into the debate now. My understanding is that you want this debated at the beginning.

Mr. Wallace, do you want to comment?

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Can the mover of the motion consider that on Wednesday we will have our last panels of witnesses? Is that not correct?

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Tomorrow we have final pre-budget--

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I mean Wednesday.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

On Wednesday we have the Parliamentary Budget Officer--

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Right.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

--and I believe three other economists.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

We have three other economists.

Is there any reason you can't have this on the agenda for the very first meeting in the next week after we're back?

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

This would be the Monday after the November break week.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

That is correct. I mean, let's be fair to the people we've already invited to come here.

I'll be happy to talk to this motion. I know from my own requests of the Parliamentary Budget Officer for feedback on private members' bills how long it has taken, and I would be surprised if 21 days is within the realm of their being able to do their work. I'd be happy to speak to that. I'd be happy to do it.

Otherwise, Mr. Chair, if we're going to debate it at the beginning of the meeting, my educated guess is that we will not hear from the witnesses we've invited. That is my educated guess.

I'd be happy to debate the issue, and my only suggestion is to do it on the Monday that we get back.

Thank you.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay. The suggestion has been made.

I'll go to Mr. Szabo first. Mr. Szabo, did you want to comment?

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Paul Szabo Liberal Mississauga South, ON

I'll yield to Mr. Brison.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Go ahead, Mr. Brison.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

This information we're requesting is actually reflective of the information that was requested earlier from the Department of Finance, which was not provided. In fact, Finance had the request for, I believe, a month, so it is not that difficult for them to go back.

Second, I agree with Mr. Wallace: there's no need to have a long debate on Wednesday. We can have a short debate and a vote and move forward.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I'm not sure that's what he said, but I'll....