Okay. I think we need to be clear about legitimate overseas use and what is clearly unacceptable, which is evasion and the use of tax havens.
I'd like to head to Mr. Cockfield next.
We've had a lot of talk about estimating this tax gap, and we've had some estimates out there. I certainly remember Jeffrey Owens indicating that it's out there, it's large, and you can estimate it. To get into detailed analysis is time consuming and expensive, and we'd really be best to focus on dealing with the issue.
I think in your last appearance you testified that it would be problematic due to the fact that it's illegal and secret. Would you still agree that there might be some numbers out there—they're big—but that as a government we should be focused on the issue of our systems and processes to deal with it? Is that fair to say?