On division.
Evidence of meeting #28 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #28 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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An hon. member
On division.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Part 5 includes clauses 148 and 149, on pages 193 and 194, and deals with the Canada Education Savings Act.
Shall clauses 148 and 149 carry?
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An hon. member
On division.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
We have part 6. Part 6 deals with Children's Special Allowances, in clauses 150 and 151, and begins on page 195.
Shall clauses 150 and 151 carry?
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An hon. member
On division.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Part 7 deals with federal financial assistance for students, in clauses 152 to 159 on pages 196 to 199.
Shall clauses to 152 to 159 carry?
Mr. Julian.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
I'm sorry. You are correct. There is an amendment.
Let's do clause 152 first--
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
--because there is an amendment on clause 153.
Shall clause 152 carry?
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An hon. member
On division.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
We wouldn't want to miss the excitement of offering an amendment that the government will surely support.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Clause 153 deals with family physicians, nurses, and nurse practitioners in underserved rural and remote communities.
Currently, the proposal in the bill is that the minister may forgive an amount in respect of a student loan to a borrower who begins to work in an underserved rural or remote community as a family physician, nurse, or nurse practitioner--if the borrower meets the prescribed conditions, of course.
What we have is a situation wherein the minister ensures that the borrower meets the prescribed conditions, but then the minister has the choice as to whether or not to forgive that amount. This is an important issue. We believe that moving the proposed amendment, changing line 26 on page 196 from “may” to “shall”, would put an obligation on the minister--if, of course, the borrower meets the prescribed conditions, which are always the entry point. The minister would have the obligation to forgive the amount.
We think this adds an extra element around the importance of the currently underserved rural and remote communities.
I'd like to move this amendment. I believe it's in order.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Thank you, Mr. Julian. That amendment is in fact in order.
Is there any further debate on the amendment? No? Okay. I will call the question on the amendment.
(Amendment negatived)
The amendment is defeated, so we'll now vote on the clause. Shall clause 153 carry?
On division?
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An hon. member
On division.
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Conservative
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An hon. member
On division.
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Conservative