There are lots of groups that advocate many things in the field of taxation and EI. We have to make some choices and we have to place some limits on things so that we maintain our fiscal track to a balanced budget.
I tell you, the guy in Ottawa who owns the bicycle shop where I made an announcement recently, because of the hiring credit last year, hired one person he otherwise would not have hired. That's one person who had a job, who wouldn't have had a job otherwise if it hadn't been for that hiring credit. This is a very practical use of the EI system.