Thank you.
We really do have very little time for this round of questioning, and the bells have started, but again you've mentioned something that I have to pick up on, and that's measuring performance. At our university and community college levels, at the end of the day everything is results based.
There's really no adequate way, Mr. Barnard and Mr. Gordon both, to measure your performance. When we're lobbied, we never get the results for how many students you've graduated and how many are working. We never get the results. Are we sending diesel mechanics through community college when we should be training more carpenters? That results-based information is really, I think, something that we need as a government to make decisions. Would you care to comment on that?