The other thing I want to mention too is that there has been a lot of talk about green energy. I think we've done that to some degree and perhaps we haven't done enough of that. I've been to China and I've seen their mills. They are impressive, to say the least, but they're filthy dirty. They use filthy dirty coal and they don't really care about that. Interestingly enough, they're the biggest advocates of our getting into the green energy business.
Can you perhaps tell us a little bit about some of those challenges that you have with where we're going? Do you know what I'm talking about?