Inherently, this is a controversial question because it hearkens at the ability to pull and to share data, both within government and between government and the private sector. I would suggest that better arms'-length work with...we have some very talented academics, both in this country and internationally, and there are mechanisms.... We have some initial mechanisms for instance with Simon Fraser University that has an agreement with Treasury Board Secretariat and gets real-time data downloads from PRIME and PROS RCMP data. That has been able to do some significant work that has significantly affected policy and strategy.
I think we need to find more creative ways of being able to have effective research, but we also need to be able to make sure that.... It seems that the people who do analysis don't understand data and the people who do data aren't allowed to do analysis. I think we have a profound misunderstanding and a profound mistrust among many agencies of data-driven work, in part because they don't understand data. The one exception to that is CSE.