I think it is a complex structural problem. One is one boss, one task as opposed to multiple tasks in the case of the RCMP. It's clearly skill sets and recruitment for it.
My friend here referred to the CSE. They'd be a world rival obviously in their ability to collect data and know what to do with it. We have strengths, but they are dedicated. That's why they have that expertise.
The RCMP is a multi-tasking organization and that's why I think it's failed. It has people who are accountants and so on who can do commercial crime, but then we say, “Yes, but we don't want you doing that commercial crime over there; we want you doing sophisticated crime here”. We don't have enough people; we don't have enough skilled people, and we don't give them the ability to focus on tasks that they have to do.
I don't think you'd ever find anything coming out of Canada that would identify someone playing around with LIBOR in terms of the rates and the trillions of dollars that are there. We don't look there. If you don't look, you don't find. We need people with the right skill sets, with a specific focus, dedicated, using other partnerships as well, but looking for the kind of crime that we're not looking at now.
I had a presentation done in 2004, just to show you how dated it is—10 years ago—with Americans and Canadians. We were looking at identity theft and various frauds on the Internet. We were talking in terms of tens of billions of dollars. That was then. Now God knows what's going on in terms of that particular environment of electronic frauds and thefts.
We're not looking at it and we don't have the skills to see it. If you don't have the eyes to see it, you're never going to investigate it. We have to sit back and say, what's out there? Intelligence tells us...we read the intelligence reports, but no one ever actions it. Why tell me about it if you're not doing anything about it? If it is there, let's structure ourselves to go after it.