No, I'm certainly not saying that. What I'm saying is that the government or the Treasury Board has yet to indicate to us what is wrong with it, where the flaws are in it.
Certainly, if they were to point out flaws, we would enter into negotiations in good faith. But when you don't come and point out the flaws, and you simply say that you want to modernize it, it brings us to a point where our members would have to choose between going to work sick or having a full paycheque. I might add that our members live paycheque to paycheque now, so it's very difficult should they find themselves in a position where their paycheque is less than what they expect because they would be on leave without pay.
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