Basically, there's a total allowable catch in British Columbia. The spawn-on-kelp industry is classified as a user of the product. So we're allocated 100 tonnes of herring to use in this operation. The sac roe fishery is a fishery where they actually catch the herring, pump them aboard the boats--in other words, kill them--and send them to town for processing for the sac roe, the little piece that is sold to the Japanese.
The point is that if you issue a roe-on-kelp licence to Heiltsuk, for instance, and make them retire six gillnet licences, or a seine licence, then basically the resource has not been.... You've just moved from one fishery to another.