I'm coming to 1999.
In 1999 the minister of the day, David Anderson, was asked by Mr. Cummins about how this fishery was being managed. Anderson came back at that time and said that basically there was no limit; it wasn't impacting public access to the spawn-on-kelp.
So in 1999 the government of the day determined that there was really no impact; it was being managed in a fairly reasonable manner. But you're saying that from 1999 there was a change.
What happened? What created the change? I understand that the Heiltsuk were granted additional licences, but what changed that resulted in that change?