I still want to focus on 1997, because everything I've seen, everything that Ernst & Young were able to present in their document as well, makes it pretty clear these were temporary permits. Nobody knew for sure if this balloon in the resource, as one of our other witnesses put it, would continue, or whether the ocean conditions would change and maybe the shrimp would go back to the north. It seems to me it was pretty clear that there was at least a reasonable possibility that these temporary permits could be temporary.
On May 7th, 2014. See this statement in context.