Evidence of meeting #9 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was first.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Georges Etoka

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

I'm just talking about the first round, which would be Conservative, NDP, Liberal, and Conservative.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Sorry, I missed that.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

It would be Conservative, NDP, Liberal, and Conservative.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

So the Conservatives would be first and last, and the NDP and Liberal would be in the middle. All right.

Are you okay with the 10 minutes?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

I wouldn't mind hearing others, but I don't think we'd be opposed to that.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Okay. Let's focus our discussion at this point on the first round. At this point it's a combined proposal from Mr. Chisholm and Mr. Kamp for 10 minutes. When I say combined, I mean that Mr. Chisholm is suggesting 10 minutes for each questioner, and Mr. Kamp is just suggesting a change in the order of speakers. He's suggesting going Conservative, NDP, Liberal, and Conservative for that first round.

Are there any questions on that?

Mr. MacAulay.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I would support what Mr. Kamp is proposing.

Can I ask a question? Would the first round be Conservative, NDP, Liberal, and Conservative?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Yes.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

The second round would be what? Or will we deal with the first round first?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

We'll just deal with the first round, if that's okay.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I'm in a game of survival here.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

I understand.

The proposal for the first round is to move from seven minutes to 10 minutes for time limits, the time allocation for each party. As Mr. Kamp said, it does make it easier to split the time if you want to split with another member as well. The only change would be moving from seven minutes to 10 minutes, and then the order would be Conservative, NDP, Liberal, and Conservative, as opposed to the present order.

Mr. Chisholm.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Robert Chisholm NDP Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that it is the case in some committees that the NDP starts off, but I'm neither here nor there on it. I'm quite happy with the way it's been going here and the way we seem to usually.... I mean, Sopuck gets out of hand from time to time, but that's usually after I speak, not before.

February 5th, 2014 / 3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Marquette, MB

That's why I wanted him to go first.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Robert Chisholm NDP Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

Yes, I'm happy with the idea. If the Conservatives want to start and finish the first round, that's fine.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Thank you.

Mr. Kamp.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

I think Mr. Chisholm raises a good point. In fact, it used to be that way here for most of my career on this committee. The opposition would begin the questioning round.

I don't think we would be opposed to the Conservatives going second and fourth, instead of first and fourth.

The other thing I was going to say, because Robert is right in that we seem to have a lot of one-hour witness panels, and when you go to this 10 minutes and it's a 10-minute presentation, and it's starting a little bit late, this fits in a little better, I think, with that one hour. Then it's up to us, as the parties, to figure out how we're going to split up that 10 minutes.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

I think I'm hearing consensus here on the first round, that we move to 10 minutes for each time slot, and the order would be NDP, Conservative, Liberal, and Conservative. Okay? Good.

The second question is on the second round. At this time, the order is NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, Conservative, and Conservative. Now we're losing two members from the committee, so the suggestion at most committees has been that we drop one NDP and one Conservative from the time slots. That would leave it as NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal, and Conservative.

Mr. Chisholm's suggestion was that we go with NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, and Conservative in the second round.

The third round, if there is a third round, would be a five-minute round as well. It would move through the same order, beginning again as we did with the 10-minute round. It's probably getting confusing, but it would be Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal.... I'm sorry. It would be NDP, Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, and Conservative. That would be the third round.

Mr. MacAulay.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

Basically the third round makes very little difference. If you have to dump me, why don't you dump me on the third one, because basically I'm out of play after the first round if you do that.

I just ask for the—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

You get 15 minutes, though: 10 plus 5.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

You're suggesting—

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

To stay where we are.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Okay. So you're suggesting—

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

Don't take the NDP's suggestion.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Okay. I think it's clear.

Mr. Chisholm, do you have a comment?