Sure. It's a great opportunity to elaborate on that. I'd like to point out that as Brandy said, a lot of monitoring is happening, and first nations have taken amazing leadership on monitoring salmon within their territories.
I think one of the issues is that there hasn't been leadership by DFO on centralizing and making data available. Even though there's also DFO-led monitoring on a number of sonar projects, those data are largely made public through the joint technical committee meetings and the Yukon River Panel meetings. They're really buried in hundreds of pages of PDF reports from which you cannot easily extract numbers. They're not provided in an analyzable format.
In the work I do to try to understand salmon populations, to share that information publicly and to create a common baseline understanding of how salmon are doing, it's extremely challenging to dig these data out of reports and copy them line by line. I can't even copy and paste out of the joint technical committee reports, because they are password-protected.
I think accessibility is a major issue here. DFO has historically been charged with compiling and analyzing data and making it accessible. Increasingly we're seeing that data collection happens by first nations. Kudos to them. It does mean that there's a bit of a gap in that larger-picture understanding. That's what I really see as a role that needs to be filled.