Evidence of meeting #38 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was protection.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alex Neve  Secretary General, Amnesty International
Stéphane Beaulac  Professor of International Law, University of Montreal
Raoul Boulakia  Lawyer, As an Individual
Paul Champ  Lawyer, Champ and Associates
Clerk of the Committee  Mrs. Carmen DePape

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

On my point of order on this motion that—

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

There is no debate on the motion.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

I am asking for clarification.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Okay. It's a point of clarification. Good.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

On a point of clarification on this...can I ask that question? All right. Thank you. If this motion that was put forward by the Bloc says we have a motion to adjourn this meeting—

10:45 a.m.

An hon. member

No, to suspend.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

To suspend this meeting, which in turn.... Does it mean we go back to the committee business you proposed at the beginning of this meeting?

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

That is a very good point of clarification.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Would you tell the Liberal critic over there not to yap while I'm talking?

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

The point is this. Mr. Obhrai raises a very good point. We made a commitment to Madame Lalonde for committee business, but in her motion to adjourn debate, she has suggested we go to questions of the witnesses.

Madame Lalonde, are you then waiving that committee business on your motion that we had committed to?

10:50 a.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Oh, wow.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Are we adjourning—

10:50 a.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Mr. Chair, I think people are taking things too far here.

I duly tabled a motion which was debated twice, but because of the points of clarification which kept piling up, we have never been able to vote on it. We were supposed to begin doing so at 20 minutes to the hour, except that as of 10:15, our colleagues opposite who, I must admit, were very well prepared, took up a great deal of time. So that means I lose the right to introduce this motion? That is absurd.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

No.

10:50 a.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I do not agree that I should not be allowed to come back to my motion, but I can introduce it when we come back from the House.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Today.

Your motion is still in order, but what we're saying is that if we adjourn debate here.... You've asked that we be able to entertain questions to the witnesses—

10:50 a.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

But what I am saying is that because of the time, we will not get to your motion today.

10:50 a.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

We will go nowhere, as I see.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Your motion is still in order, and it's still on the order paper for us to hear.

10:50 a.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes, that's right.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Mr. Patry.

10:50 a.m.

Liberal

Bernard Patry Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Mr. Chair,

I just want a point of clarification following Mr. Obhrai's comments. If we continue until 11 today, what is going to happen at the next meeting? Will it be finished today, or will we start again with Bill C-300 at the next meeting?

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

That is my point.

10:50 a.m.

Liberal

Bernard Patry Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

That is what I want to know.

I don't want to come back in one week and be doing this motion forever.