Evidence of meeting #41 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was secretariat.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mary Chaput  Assistant Secretary, Government Operations Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Shirley Jen  Senior Director, Real Property and Material Policy Division, Treasury Board Secretariat
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Bibiane Ouellette

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Okay. I'm interested in trying to find out what we do know. So we don't quite know who's actually putting the ad in the paper saying, buy my building. Right? We don't know that yet, whether it's Colliers or whoever it's going to be.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

No, Public Works does it. BMO will do it as well.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

BMO is going to be the sales agent.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Yes. They'll be involved with the marketing as well, with the Royal Bank.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Okay, that's what I didn't understand. That's the question I had previously: who is actually selling the building?

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

How about this? I'll send you the transcript of when the Minister of Public Works was here and went over this for two hours.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

By the way, the minister will be here again on March 29.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

I don't mean to be tedious.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

I understand. But it's all on the Department of Public Works website.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Okay. If there's a simple answer, I'd like to get it.

What's the commission?

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Assistant Secretary, Government Operations Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Mary Chaput

That's part of the deal that PW has with the banks.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Can we go over that? What's the commission? We don't know the commission?

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Assistant Secretary, Government Operations Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Mary Chaput

I don't know that to be public information.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Is it going to be?

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Assistant Secretary, Government Operations Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Mary Chaput

I don't know, sir. I don't know how the contract will be treated from an ATIP point of view.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Can we find that out?

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A voice

Are they public tenders?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

As I said, we'll have to ask the minister when he comes here.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

I mean, they're our buildings.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Yes, they're our buildings.

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

As I understand it, there is not.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

There is no commission?

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Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

It's part of the contract, because BMO and the Royal Bank were hired to do the appraisal of the buildings. There were 40 buildings that were examined, and nine were decided. This is now in their contract, including the marketing.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

What do we pay the banks to do this work?

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Assistant Secretary, Government Operations Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Mary Chaput

What do we pay the banks today? I don't know.