Evidence of meeting #29 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
I'm going to pursue some questioning on this. I'm fearful that if you're able to find a list and send it to me...sometimes my staff have a way of sorting through things before they get to me.
You listed the Museum of Civilization and the Museum of Nature. Do you have some others to add to that list of museums?
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
There's the Museum of Science and Technology and the National Gallery of Canada. I think Mr. Wiersema mentioned the new Museum for Human Rights in Winnipeg. So we have four in Ottawa and one in Winnipeg. The War Museum is a part of the Museum of Civilization; it's not a separate corporation.
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Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Another major crown corporation that wasn't on the member's list is Farm Credit Canada. There's the Canadian Dairy Commission, thinking of the agricultural portfolio. Pretty soon we'll have all 46.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
That's excellent. That's part of the goal here.
Just to make sure I understand, is the Canadian Dairy Commission involved in supply management?
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Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
That's correct.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
You're very precise in making sure you answer the chair.
Are there any other museums we haven't hit on?
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
You have all of the museums.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
You also focused on some things under Transport. We have the Canada Air Transportation Security.
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
There are four pilotage authorities. There's the Blue Water Bridge corporation--
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Conservative
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
All the transport-related crowns are under the Minister of Transport. A good number of other crowns not necessarily related to transport are also under the umbrella of the Minister of Transport. The Royal Canadian Mint is quite an important one, which I think we didn't name. Downsview Park, Canada Post, and the Federal Bridge Corporation are all transport-related.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
Are the four you mentioned under pilotage considered to be one of the 46, or four of the 46?
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
They're four separate crown corporations.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
Let's list them specifically so I can compile my list. You mentioned Blue Water.
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
There's Atlantic Pilotage, Great Lakes Pilotage, Laurentian Pilotage, and Pacific Pilotage. They are four separate crown corporations.
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Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
I count five there. You said Blue Water, Atlantic, Great Lakes--
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Assistant Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Blue Water is a bridge.
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Derek Lee
You're a good counter and I'm a good counter. I just counted up to five minutes, so I have to interrupt your valuable line of questioning and look to other members.
Monsieur Roy.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
I would like to ask a question about the Pacific Pilotage Authority. I want to know what you mean by the term “pilots' performance evaluation“.
Is this an evaluation of the use of the pilots' time? It is not clear to me. Are you just talking about the use of their time? Are you talking about their time at work?
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Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
No, I think it's broader, Mr. Chairman, than the use of their time. It's an evaluation of their performance as pilots of the boats. The Pacific Pilotage Authority did not have processes to assess pilots' performance. As you would expect with most employee-employer relationships, periodically there's a formal performance assessment done of an employee's performance. These pilots were performing services on behalf of the Pacific Pilotage Authority. We were encouraging the pilotage authority to have means of assessing the pilots' performance as pilots of the boats, through formal performance appraisals.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Once again, if I understand correctly, there is a problem with the qualifications of the staff.
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Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
They need to be concerned about the qualifications of the pilots and whether the pilots are carrying out their duties appropriately when piloting these boats. So I think both are required: they have to ensure that pilots are appropriately qualified and are appropriately performing their duties as pilots.
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Bloc