Evidence of meeting #36 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Fortier  Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual
Duff Conacher  Coordinator, Democracy Watch
Joseph Broccolini  Vice-President, Montreal, Broccolini Construction Inc.

8:50 a.m.

Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

Not at all.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

At no time did anyone raise a flag?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

No one came to see you to say that the Hells Angels might have infiltrated in such and such a contract?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

No one, no member or senator's assistant came to see you to tell you something was fishy about a particular file?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Were you also involved in files concerning the sale of lands or the leasing of government buildings?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

Are you talking about the sale of government buildings?

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Yes.

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

Of course, that was done when I was minister.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Were you involved, for example, in leases between leasing companies for government buildings?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

When you say "involved", do you mean "involved as minister"?

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Were you aware of that? Were you briefed?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

Of course, I was briefed by the Real Property Branch on our public buildings portfolio and our lease portfolio. At the time, half of our employees were in locations that we leased. So there were regular meetings on the portfolio of leases that linked us to private businesses across the country so that we could house our employees.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

With everything you know, do you think one of your assistants went behind your back when you were minister of Public Works and Government Services. I am thinking of Mr. Côté in particular.

8:50 a.m.

Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

No, I don't believe so.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

In that case, why was he dismissed?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

Mr. Côté left in the wake of revelations of his relationship with Ms. Couillard. Mr. Côté knows very well that I would have liked him to tell me that since it was important at the time for that to be known to the minister.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Thank you, Mr. Coderre. Thank you, Mr. Fortier.

Before I turn it over to Madame Bourgeois, Mr. Calkins would wish me to point out that the food and drinks at the back of the room are for the exclusive use of the members. Thank you.

Ms. Bourgeois, you have eight minutes.

8:50 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Good morning, Mr. Fortier. Thank you for being here.

This morning, we are trying to shed light on certain allegations. Your time at the Department of Public Works and Government Services is extremely important. You were in your position from February 6, 2006 to June 24, 2008. It is important to point out that you were in your position for two consecutive years.

Mr. Fortier, you said earlier that you had attended a few cocktail fundraisers with contractors when you were minister. That leads me to ask you one question: are you familiar with that restaurant, the Mas des Oliviers?

8:55 a.m.

Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Michael Fortier

No, I don't believe I've ever been there. That's not to take anything away from that restaurant. I don't mean to judge it from a gastronomical standpoint, but I've never been there.

8:55 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

All right. Did you know that certain contractors who won contracts from your department made contributions to your party while you were minister of Public Works and Government Services? Were you aware of that?

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Former Minister of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual