Evidence of meeting #63 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cuts.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alister Smith  Associate Secretary, Treasury Board Secretariat
Bill Matthews  Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Christine Walker  Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services, Treasury Board Secretariat
Sally Thornton  Executive Director, Expenditure Strategies and Estimates, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Okay.

November 20th, 2012 / 10:30 a.m.

Associate Secretary, Treasury Board Secretariat

Alister Smith

To add one thing on that matter, we test and track our own performance internally, quarterly, and that rolls up into our DPRs. We track how well we're doing against our objectives.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Thank you, Mr. Wallace.

Committee members, it's 10:30. We do have a little bit of business that we need to do as a committee in camera.

John has one brief question he would like to ask, and then we'll thank our witnesses for their time.

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Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Just before you end this meeting, I'd like to propose my motion. Would you like me to read it?

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Are you just giving notice of motion at this time, or are you putting the motion on the floor?

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Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

I would like to put it on the floor.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

It is in order, yes.

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Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

The motion reads,

That, in relation to the decision of the House of Commons to refer the Seventh Report of the Committee back to the Committee, the Committee hold at least one meeting to hear from the President of the Treasury Board in order to know which specific recommendations require “clarification and enhancement”;

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

I thought the motion was to deal with the estimates. This has nothing to do with the estimates. It has something to do with the future. If he wants to talk about that motion, I'm happy to talk about it in camera, because it's future business.

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Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

The chair has just ruled it in order.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

No, we assumed you were talking about the estimates, Mr. McCallum, and—

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Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

It's not for you to rule whether it's in order.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

That doesn't change the fact that I asked the clerk if it would be in order. Notice of motion had been served on this motion, I understand. The requisite 48 hours' notice has been given. I thought Mr. McCallum was going to be questioning our witnesses. He chose to use his time to put his motion, so he can finish reading his motion and we will deal with it as such.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

I'm almost finished.

that the Committee also consider amending the recommendations in the report; and that at the end of the meeting, it report back to the House an amended report.

That is the motion. I think it's self-explanatory, so I won't comment further except to put it on the table and propose that we accept it.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

We appreciate that, because we do have witnesses sitting here.

Is there any further debate on the motion?

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I move to move it in camera.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

The motion to go in camera is non-debatable.

(Motion agreed to)

We will then thank our witnesses for their testimony today. It was very helpful and we appreciate the effort you've taken to help us understand the supplementary estimates (B).

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

The meeting is temporarily suspended while the witnesses leave the room.

[Proceedings continue in camera]