Evidence of meeting #5 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bill Matthews  Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Derek Armstrong  Director, Expenditure Analysis, Treasury Board Secretariat

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

Thank you.

This brings your testimony to an end. Allow me to take this opportunity to thank you once again for having taken the trouble to come. I have no doubt we will be seeing you again in the near future.

We will suspend the hearing for a few minutes, after which we will return to discuss the third item on the agenda.

Thank you once again for being here today.

Members of the committee, I will see you back here in a few minutes.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

I call the meeting back to order.

Before moving on to our third topic, I would like to say something to the committee. The Canada Lands Company representatives who were supposed to appear on December 5 have a scheduling conflict. They will not be able to come. They have requested to appear at the beginning of next year instead. I wanted to inform the committee and obtain its approval to that effect. This leaves our December 5 committee meeting open, since that was the only thing on the agenda up until now.

Is this agreeable to everyone?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Bernard Trottier Conservative Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

I would like to make a comment. The Canada Lands Company has a new president, who would have had to appear before the committee in any case for his nomination to be approved. So it makes sense for CLC representatives to appear after the New Year.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

There is one last thing I wanted to mention about future committee work. It has to do with a budgetary appropriation for the Transportation Safety Board in supplementary estimates (B). A certain amount has been set aside in supplementary estimates (B). I was wondering whether the committee intended to invite representatives of the TSB, an organization that is part of Privy Council Office's portfolio, since PCO officials indicated they could not discuss TSB's expenditures in detail. In that case, I do not know whether the committee wishes to invite TSB officials or ask Privy Council Office officials more general questions.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Bernard Trottier Conservative Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Could we deal with that issue when we meet with the people from Privy Council Office to discuss the estimates?

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

We could do so right now, since this is part of Privy Council Office's portfolio. However, PCO officials may not be able to speak in detail of that particular organization.

I wanted the committee to know that there was a vote in the amount of $941,222 for the TSB. We had not planned to invite TSB officials. I just wanted to know what the committee intended to do.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Bernard Trottier Conservative Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

What exactly is the question? Is this about inviting them to appear on December 5?

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

Yes. As I just mentioned, the two-hour meeting on December 5 is now open, unless committee members have something else to suggest.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Bernard Trottier Conservative Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

I do have a different suggestion.

We had planned to hear from the Canada Lands Company for two hours, given the size of the organization and the many files they deal with.

Furthermore, we had considered inviting the Royal Canadian Mint officials to appear. They have not appeared before this committee for several years now. That organization has changed a great deal. It has undertaken projects such as eliminating the penny. We could ask them questions about that. This could provide a fulsome discussion for the two hours, given the short time frame of two weeks to send out an invitation.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

Does everyone agree that we should invite Royal Canadian Mint officials to come speak to us about the parts of the supplementary estimates that affect them?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Bernard Trottier Conservative Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

No, it would not be about the supplementary estimates, but rather to answer our questions about their own governance. Like the Canada Lands Company, they have not appeared before this committee for a long time.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

All right. Does everyone agree with this?

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Anne-Marie Day NDP Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

It is fine with me.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

That could fill in our two-hour window.

As planned, we will therefore refer questions about the TSB to Privy Council Office representatives.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Anne-Marie Day NDP Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

I have a question about Privy Council Office, Mr. Chair. Your explanation leads me to believe these officials may appear, but that they will not be able to provide details as to content. In that case, I wonder how relevant it is to invite them to appear.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

They can speak to us about many other topics. If they are apprised of this discussion, they will be able to prepare themselves a bit better.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Anne-Marie Day NDP Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

In that case, would you be providing us with further explanations on this subject later on?

5:20 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

I really won't have any other explanation to provide.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Anne-Marie Day NDP Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

I see. Thank you.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pierre-Luc Dusseault

Are there any further comments about future committee work? Apparently not.

This brings our meeting to a close. We will see you next Tuesday, at the same time.

The meeting is adjourned.