Go ahead.
Evidence of meeting #109 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was company.
A video is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #109 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was company.
A video is available from Parliament.
2:05 p.m.
Liberal
Bryan May Liberal Cambridge, ON
You had suggested that my colleague, Mr. Sousa, could not amend his own motion, but his motion was amended. I just want to get clarity from the clerk that Mr. Sousa has the privilege to move an amendment at this point.
I stand to be corrected on that, but I would very much like to know if that's the case.
2:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
I can pass it over to the clerk or I can just tell you that this is the case. It's because it's in his name.
2:05 p.m.
Liberal
2:05 p.m.
Liberal
Bryan May Liberal Cambridge, ON
Excuse me. His motion was amended a couple of times. He doesn't have the right to then move an amendment on that motion. Is that correct?
2:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Well, you won't listen to me, so I'll hand it over to the clerk to tell you the same thing.
2:05 p.m.
The Clerk
That is my understanding, sir. If you'd like me to double-check that on your behalf, I can. At this point, we do have an amendment put forward by Mr. Jowhari, but to clear the record, I don't mind going back and checking that for you, sir, if you'd like.
2:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
It's somewhat beside the point, because we have Mr. Jowhari actually putting through the amendment that, I assume, Mr. Sousa wanted.
Is anyone else on the speaking list on Mr. Jowhari's amendment to change it to one hour, with the assumption being not side by side, but one hour and one hour?
We can move to a vote on Mr. Jowhari's amendment. We'll do a recorded vote.
(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We can now vote on the amended motion from Mr. Sousa. We'll go to a recorded vote.
I'll give you a 30-second warning, Mr. Anthony. We will get back to you very shortly, if you want to come back online.
(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Leave it with me and the clerk and I think Mr. Jowhari, as vice-chair, to figure out who will be here at what time, if that's fine with everyone. Thanks very much.
Mr. Anthony, I apologize for the delay. Thank you.
We are now back with Mr. Berthold for five minutes. Go ahead, sir.
2:10 p.m.
Conservative
Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Anthony, you and your partner, Mr. Firth, seem to have found the perfect recipe for getting rich on the backs of Canadians, without technical knowledge, without staff. It seems that the Trudeau government’s laxity left the door to the safe wide open.
Since 2015, did anyone within the Liberal government look into your business model?
2:10 p.m.
Conservative
Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC
That’s not really surprising.
According to the numbers available—because even the Auditor General can’t confirm the invoices due to the lack of details and due to the fact that your partner, Mr. Firth, is calling everyone talking about it a liar—you and your numbered company made between $4 million and $8 million in profits from federal contracts since 2015. Is that correct?
2:10 p.m.
Conservative
Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC
How much money did you get through federal contracts since 2015? I’m talking about you and your numbered company.
2:10 p.m.
Conservative
Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC
Mr. Anthony, if I were a regular Canadian and millions of dollars were deposited into my account, I would be able to tell you if it was two, four or eight million dollars, for example. For you, that seems to be chump change, but for the majority of Canadians lining up at food banks, it is a lot of money.
According to the estimates, your personal profit was somewhere between four and eight million dollars. Is that right?
2:10 p.m.
Conservative
Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC
Mr. Anthony, am I to understand that you can’t say if you earned more than $4 million through federal contracts since 2015?