Evidence of meeting #109 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was company.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Thomas Bigelow
Darren Anthony  Partner, GC Strategies

2:25 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

2:25 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

They never participated in any meetings.

Do you know the principals of Botler? Did you ever meet with them?

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

No, I have never met with them. The only interaction I've had with Botler has been for security.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

What did you do with regard to providing security clearance? What did you do in that case with those two individuals?

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

Those two individuals reached out to me, asking how to get security-cleared with the federal government. I gave them the instructions that they needed to get fingerprinted. I found a place in Montreal—that's where they were residing at the time—that does federal fingerprinting. I got them through that process. They sent me back their documents with the DCNs, the document control numbers, on them. They sent me their dates of birth and their citizenships. I submitted that through the OLISS portal, and they were able to get security-cleared.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

You facilitated their engagement. They didn't have a contract. Is that correct? Why did they need security clearance? What exactly was taking place?

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I have no knowledge of that.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Who instructed you to provide the requirements for fingerprinting and security engagement? How did that come to be?

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I believe they reached out to me to say that they needed security clearance.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

The two principals reached out to you. This would have been Amir Morv and Ritika Dutt.

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Partner, GC Strategies

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

They reached out to you.

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I believe so, yes.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Their request was that they needed clearance in order to engage with the federal government.

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Partner, GC Strategies

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

They didn't have a contract.

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

At that time, without a contract, you were able to do that to start the process.

If you were submitting a bid on an RFP that you were not awarded, there could be a number or an identifier associated with that, but prior to a few years ago, you would be able to submit a name for security clearance and say that they were just a consultant, and they would be able to get a clearance.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Had Mr. Firth been in contact with them as well, concurrent with you, in terms of their engagement?

2:25 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I don't have any knowledge of his contact with Botler.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Okay. Botler contacted you for their security, and no contract was evident. They were going through a preliminary study or pilot or whatever it was called. That's why they needed this clearance, which you helped them to get.

2:25 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

Yes, I would assume so.

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Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

You, being an owner of GC Strategies—a major owner, a 50% owner—didn't have a contract with the government regarding their engagement either. Is that correct?

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Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

That's correct.

2:25 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

GC Strategies doesn't have a contract. Botler doesn't have a contract. You're facilitating security clearance for them to potentially get a contract.

2:25 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies