Evidence of meeting #99 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was across.
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12:25 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Okay, we're going to suspend for Mrs. Vignola. She's lost her camera.
Why don't you reboot, Mrs. Vignola, and we'll see you back in a couple of minutes.
We'll suspend for a couple of minutes.
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
We are back. Thank you for your patience, everyone.
We have completed our speaking list.
Does anyone else wish to speak, or can we go to a vote, please?
12:35 p.m.
Liberal
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
We ruled it out of order.
Go ahead with a recorded vote, please.
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Conservative
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Liberal
Irek Kusmierczyk Liberal Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
Mr. Chair, I misunderstood what we are voting on. The amendment was ruled out of order.
12:35 p.m.
Bloc
Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC
Are we going to vote on adjourning the debate or on the motion? I remind you that I missed parts of the conversation. What are we going to vote on?
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Can you say it again? I'm not getting the interpretation, Mrs. Vignola.
12:35 p.m.
Bloc
Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC
Before we proceed, I'd like to know what we are voting on. Are we voting on adjourning the debate, or are we voting directly on the motion, in all of its imperfection and all of the interference it represents?
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
We exhausted our speakers list. I called for the vote, and no one put their hand up. I asked a second time, and we called the vote. We cannot go back after we've called the vote, I'm afraid.
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Liberal
Irek Kusmierczyk Liberal Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. There was a bit of confusion. I think you rushed to the vote very quickly and—
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Conservative
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Liberal
Irek Kusmierczyk Liberal Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
I was ready to speak to this issue. I misunderstood where we're at right now. I thought we were discussing the amendment. I didn't quite hear that it was ruled out of order or out of scope.
I do want to speak to this issue, so I would ask the chair for a bit of leeway on this matter.
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Conservative
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Bloc
Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC
I just received the answer to the question I asked previously about what we were going to vote on; either adjourning the debate or Mr. Davidson's motion, as imperfect as it is, since it dips into municipal and provincial interference.
My understanding is we are going to vote on the original motion in its current form. Is that correct?
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
That is correct.
To address your comments, I had ruled that Mr. Bachrach's amendment was out of order. We continued debate for about 35 minutes on the original motion, including going back to the speaking list. Mr. Genuis finished. We suspended. We came back, and I asked twice if anyone else wanted to speak to it. Then I said recorded vote, and now we're into the vote.
If people are not paying attention or missed it, I cannot change that. We have started the vote, and we can't suspend once we've started the vote. If we've called the vote, we've called the vote, and that is that. We will continue with the vote.
12:40 p.m.
Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, if I may, it appears that we've been having technical difficulty throughout this period of time. We suspended in order to allow the Bloc to—
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Conservative
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
I'm not sure she understood, because she's not clear as a consequence. I think we need to—
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
She asked and I explained to her we were voting on the motion. I asked twice. If members don't wish to throw their names up....
Mr. Genuis was speaking for 20 minutes. Anyone could have simply put up their hand and added themselves to the list. No one did. He finished his time. He stated he was done. We suspended and came back in. I asked if anyone else wanted to speak, twice, and that will show on the blues. No one said anything. There's no one else on the list. We exhausted the list.
We called the vote, and we have now started the vote. We can't go back after we've started the vote. We can't interrupt the vote and say we're going to go back to speaking. The vote has been called, and we're going to continue with the vote.
I am sorry, but I asked twice. We started the vote, and we'll continue the vote.
Go ahead, Mr. Clerk.
12:40 p.m.
Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Can we confirm what we're voting on? The Bloc is asking the same question.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
No. She asked and she was answered. We're voting on the original motion. We're going to continue the vote. We're not going to entertain any more interruptions.
(Motion negatived: nays 6; yeas 4)
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Conservative
