Evidence of meeting #9 for Health in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was silicone.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sonya Norris  Committee Researcher
Nancy Miller Chenier  Committee Researcher

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Committee Researcher

Sonya Norris

It came from the medical devices regulations, part 2, special access.

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NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

Did you say that's been taken out?

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Committee Researcher

Sonya Norris

I don't know why there's a change with what the application asks for; the application asks for a medical condition that they are treating.

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NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

Is that where we get into the idea that small breast size is the medical condition being treated?

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Committee Researcher

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Do we have an amendment, Ms. Priddy?

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NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

The one I had suggested was “clearly medically necessary”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Is that your amendment?

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NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Okay. We have an amendment on the floor. Does the mover see that as a friendly amendment to start with?

Madame Demers, do you see Ms. Priddy's amendment as a friendly amendment?

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An hon. member

What did she say?

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NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

I said, “clearly medically necessary”. It could probably still use a little bit of work, but it's closer.

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Liberal

Brenda Chamberlain Liberal Guelph, ON

It's cIoser. The only thing about that is...what about psychological? What about that?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Just a second. I need an answer as to whether the mover sees that as a friendly amendment or not.

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Bloc

Nicole Demers Bloc Laval, QC

With these two amendments, namely the one from Ms. Dhalla and the one from Ms. Priddy, it would probably be preferable, because saline implants are available on the market for persons with psychological problems.

We want the use of silicone gel implants restricted, because there is no clear proof that they do not cause health problems.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Let's have this for a recommendation, because we're getting bogged down here. Nancy and Sonya have come up with a recommendation. Go ahead.

This may work.

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Nancy Miller Chenier Committee Researcher

Thank you.

It actually means stopping the motion at the end of the first sentence. You have a preamble that has already laid out many of the conditions you want the Minister of Health to consider, and it gets the committee away from specifying access conditions that they may not have heard enough about, so if you say you're asking them to tighten the conditions, it would still relate back to the earlier data.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

You're saying to use just the first lines, with a period after “program”: “We are asking the Minister of Health to tighten the conditions of the special access program.”

Are you good with that as an amendment?

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Conservative

Steven Fletcher Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia, MB

You have to take out the fourth “whereas” to go with it. You would have to take out the fourth “whereas”.

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Bloc

Nicole Demers Bloc Laval, QC

No, that's what it was intended for. That's what it was intended for, Steven; it's clearly written in Health Canada's program.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Excuse me; the clerk is suggesting that we would have to add “medically necessary”, rather than “breast reconstruction”.

Let's leave the preamble. Madame Demers, as the mover of the question, are you okay with that as an amendment?

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Bloc

Nicole Demers Bloc Laval, QC

Mr. Chairman, I don't know if that goes far enough. If we merely ask that conditions be tightened, without being specific, then it's unclear as to how this will done. I want to prevent situations were restrictions are relaxed and implants are approved for breast augmentations. That's the only thing I trying to prevent.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Are you saying no, you don't see it as a friendly amendment?

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Bloc

Nicole Demers Bloc Laval, QC

No.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

All right.

Ms. Dhalla.