You would have seen in our brief, on educating your own.... That comes from research, both in rural and aboriginal communities. If we're able to find education programs that are built on career-laddering programs in rural communities, they will stay there. Those are their communities; they will stay there. But if you take me and bring me to the north, I might stay there a year or two and then I'll want to come back. So it's really building those bridges.
I'll say quickly that one of the successes we could have from this committee is, again, the observatory or institute, to answer Cathy's question. There are all kinds of different programs out there, in rural, in home care, that are experienced, but nobody talks about them. If we had one pan-Canadian program led by a federal-provincial-territorial...where we all share a positive experience, we would be able to share experience in rural and northern communities, and then find solutions for the country. But we need one spot, which we do not have today.