Evidence of meeting #40 for Health in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC
There you are. If my motion had been heard the other day, it would have given people more time.
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
I don't think I'm being unreasonable. There is a process, and I know other colleagues around the table have done order paper questions. It gives a reasonable amount of time. Madam Chair, if I could be quite clear about the fastest way and if you would like to see information from 2004-2006, he was the minister. We didn't have the Federal Accountability Act then. I don't know how in heaven's name we're going to go back that far.
You made a good point about giving a written response to something that was verbal. How do you even research that? I would ask him to address this. He didn't want to address my individual points, but how would he even suggest officials give a written response to things that were given verbally?
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
Which one is it, Monsieur Malo or Monsieur Dufour?
Monsieur Malo, go ahead.
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Bloc
Luc Malo Bloc Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC
To give two extra days, we could easily put the meeting scheduled for December 7 back to December 9.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
That is an amendment, then. Are you putting on an amendment to Mr. Dosanjh's motion?
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Conservative
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Bloc
Luc Malo Bloc Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC
Here is the wording of my amendment: that the information be submitted to the committee in 9 business days—not 7, and, as an addition—that the meeting scheduled for December 7 be postponed to December 9.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
The second request is outside the scope, so you cannot do that, Monsieur Malo, but you can say that you would like to have it within nine working days.
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Bloc
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
You withdraw your motion. Then we're back to Mr. Dosanjh's motion now, without your amendment.
Thank you, Monsieur Malo.
Go ahead, Dr. Carrie.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
I do think it's reasonable to discuss this, Madam Chair, because I haven't heard a suggestion. I did ask a question, and I think it's reasonable: how do you provide written documentation on verbal input?
Does anybody have any idea of how you could get that information from 2004? All of us know that we did put the Federal Accountability Act in, but this is even before that. Perhaps the best idea is that since he was formerly the Minister of Health, he may have that at his fingertips and maybe he could bring that forward in seven days.
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Conservative
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NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
I think we're going around in a circle. May I call the question?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
All right. I'm sorry, but I've just been informed that if other people want to speak, they actually can't do that. I have to ask if there is anyone else who would like to speak on this discussion, or can we go to the question?
Then we'll go to the question. The question is the notice of motion as outlined in front of you.
(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
Could I ask for unanimous consent on an addendum to this?
Because there won't be anything between 2004 and 2006 that would have to respond to the Federal Accountability Act, I think the most reasonable thing would be that the former Minister of Health could perhaps bring his records of all the lobbyists within seven days to put forward and answer the questions between 2004 and 2006. I think that might be the quickest way to get this information put forward to the committee. Does that sound reasonable? Could we get unanimous consent?
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An hon. member
C'est bon.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
So we're asking unanimous consent for Mr. Dosanjh as the former minister to bring all his documents from 2004 to....?
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
I think that would be the fastest way to get those two years to the committee--
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
To try to help us out to get this research. Okay. All those in favour, please raise your hands.
Mr. Dosanjh, you're not raising your hand.
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Liberal