I have a point of clarification, again, Mr. Chair. I'm just trying to understand my colleague. Through you to my colleague, is he saying that the Liberal chair of the ethics committee had ruled a motion from the ethics committee to investigate the Liberal fundraising scheme out of order because he said it would be more properly dealt with in the procedure and House affairs committee? Yet this committee has refused to open up its books. So I'm not sure if we have a.... Is that basically what's happening here?
On March 4th, 2008. See this statement in context.