Well, first of all, thank you very much for those kind words. Mr. Armstrong's opinion evidently is that you don't know me as well as you think you do, or you'd like me less. This is the kind of collegiality that we all seek to have in every caucus.
With regard to community of interest, Ted is right; if you're looking at community of interest, there's no doubt that the city of Kingston...the status quo ante achieves the community of interest in keeping a political unit together. It keeps the old Pittsburgh Township together as well. It fulfills all those goals. The trouble is that I think the population is beyond what the commission is likely to accept at this point. The problem is not so much that Kingston is too large—although clearly it was at the absolute maximum that the commission was willing to accept, 17% over. Before they changed the proposal, it was the second-largest riding in the province in population. The problem is really that Lanark—Frontenac becomes too small. At 90,000 it's way under anything else in the region. I think for that reason they're unlikely to accept it.
This would reflect my own point of view. I think what I'm proposing is the best way of reflecting community of interest, and I base that on the fact that the local officials have been telling me that. If you don't endorse what I'm proposing, I think it would make sense for you to endorse what Mr. Hsu is proposing. It is actually better than the status quo, as far as community of interest goes. Now, the commission might look at it and say they just can't go for this, that they have to think of population, which overrides community of interest concerns. But I think he is accurately reflecting a legitimate way of handling the issue. If I were in his position and I were the MP for Kingston and the Islands, I'd probably be saying the same thing.