Evidence of meeting #80 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
NDP-5 has been withdrawn. We're now going on to NDP-6 on page 8, right?
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Liberal
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NDP
Denise Savoie NDP Victoria, BC
The purpose of this amendment is simply to provide more money for low-income students. From everything we've heard during the employability study, we know they are not accessing university, college, or post-secondary education in the same way as students from higher-income families. We know the existing patchwork of tax credits and whatever else disproportionately favours students from higher-income families. The idea is to bridge that gap and help these students to complete their studies.
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
Do any members wish to speak on NDP-6? No?
We'll call the question.
4:50 p.m.
NDP
Denise Savoie NDP Victoria, BC
I would be very interested in why the Conservative members of this committee would not support an amendment that would favour lower-income students to help them access education, when we know having them do so is a problem in Canada today.
4:50 p.m.
Conservative
Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON
Certainly, Madam Chair, I can respond to that.
The simple reason is that we believe that if a program is to be ameliorated or introduced, it should benefit Canadian students in all provinces. This bill does not do so, because it does not help out students in the province of Quebec. Therefore, we won't be supporting it.
Any amendment that you propose to this bill ameliorates services, but it will only do so for students in living in nine out of ten provinces and one out of three territories. Therefore, we will not support it, nor will we support any amendments.
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
Does that answer your question?
I'll call the question.
(Amendment negatived)
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
We're going to go on to the next question. We may be able to get you out of here a little early today. We are finished with all of the amendments. We are now going on to the clauses.
(Clauses 1 and 2 negatived)
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Some hon. members
No.
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An hon. member
I'd like a recorded vote, please.
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Conservative
Lynne Yelich Conservative Blackstrap, SK
Can I ask a question to the officials? Why would this bill be—
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
We have to proceed to the vote right now.
This will be a recorded vote, in regard to whether or not the bill shall carry.
(Bill C-284 negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
The bill has been defeated.
The last question of the day is whether or not I shall report the bill to the House.
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
How does this work? If you report the bill, do you report it as defeated?
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
I would like to know the answer to that question before I vote.
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Ruby Dhalla
A report needs to be made. It would just be reported empty.
I am informed by our expert clerk that if there is no report, it's deemed reported as is. Hence, we have to have a vote.
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Conservative
Ken Epp Conservative Edmonton—Sherwood Park, AB
Then on whether or not we should report the bill, the answer is yes.
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Liberal
