Evidence of meeting #1 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Evelyn Lukyniuk
Chantal Collin  Committee Researcher
André Léonard  Committee Researcher
Sandra Gruescu  Committee Researcher

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Including child care expenses.

4 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

It's been fairly standard on many committees to have that added in there.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

It seems reasonable.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Butt Conservative Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

That's a reasonable thing. It's a fair amount.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

We don't see any objection.

We'll probably get an amendment to that, but we'll have more discussion.

I think it was Rodger who was next.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

No, I'm okay.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

You're okay.

Who is next?

Carol.

4 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes NDP Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

I'm just wondering. Aside from child care, dealing with this committee here, sometimes some of the witnesses may have to leave someone at home who cannot be cared for unless there is somebody there. So I would like to include attendant care in there as well, if possible.

As an example, I have a friend who has a husband with MS who is a quadriplegic, and her son is autistic. If she were to come here—let's say she would come here and be a witness—she would need not just the child care, but she would certainly need someone to.... So I'm just saying that part should be considered.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

How would you word that then: including child--

4 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes NDP Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

Including child and/or attendant care.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

And/or attendant care. Okay.

Would you move that amendment?

4 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes NDP Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

I'll move it.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Okay, all those in favour of the motion as amended?

(Motion as amended agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

Okay, on staff at in camera meetings:

Each committee member in attendance shall be permitted to have one staff member attend any in camera meetings. In addition, each party shall be permitted to have one staff member from a House officer attend in camera meetings.

It seems innocuous.

Kellie is moving it.

(Motion agreed to)

On transcripts of in camera meetings:

That in camera meetings be transcribed and that the transcription be kept with the clerk of the committee for later consultation by members of the committee or by their staff.

Do we have a mover for that?

It's Brad, again.

(Motion agreed to)

With regard to notice of motion, you might take a little time to read this one. It's a bit convoluted. It was from the government operations committee, and it was passed there. It simply says:

That a notice of 48 hours, interpreted as two nights, be required before a member may move a substantive motion, unless it deals directly with the matter before the committee at this time, provided that (1) this notice be e-mailed to the committee clerk no later than 5:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; that (2) the notice be distributed by e-mail to members in both official languages by the clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; that (3) notices received after the deadline hour be deemed to have been received during the next business day; and that (4) this rule does not prevent a member to give notice of a motion orally during a meeting of the committee, in which case notice shall be deemed to have been given before the deadline that day.

I guess it's trying to set out that you need roughly two days, meeting to meeting, for a notice of motion but that you can do one orally.

We have Brad moving it, and we have some discussion.

Jean Crowder.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

It's just a clarification. I don't know if it has to say this in the motion, but if a member chooses to give notice orally during the meeting, by unanimous consent we can actually consider the motion at that time.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

I would say the rule--

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

If it's relevant to the business.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Yes, we'd normally put it in our proceedings.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

It doesn't need to be here. It's part of the normal standing committee procedure.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

I'm just saying in other committees we've always included “with unanimous consent”--

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

We didn't because it would be redundant.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

If you have unanimous consent, you can do anything--except remove the chair.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

I'm fine with that. I just know that with other committees we've always included it.

(Motion agreed to)

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

All right, I think we have that under wraps. Let's see where we go from here.

You've obviously received the briefing book that sets out a number of things we've looked at and considered. One topic I do want to raise, if the committee would indulge us, would be to deal with the....

Sorry, Kellie.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

Mr. Chair, I don't know if you want us to deal with the subcommittee.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

I guess we know the subcommittee will be composed of the chair and the two vice-chairs; we just don't know who the two remaining members will be. It would be good to now indicate them.

We'll entertain a motion to that effect.