Evidence of meeting #1 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Evelyn Lukyniuk
Chantal Collin  Committee Researcher
André Léonard  Committee Researcher
Sandra Gruescu  Committee Researcher

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

It does say the evidence and the documentation, so I would suspect it would be the actual—

4:15 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Chantal Collin

The issues and options paper that we prepared before the report.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

That would be great. That would be very useful.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

When it says the evidence, it wouldn't be the actual testimony?

4:15 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Chantal Collin

That's just brought forward, but it's not distributed.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Okay. So if somebody wanted to actually have a review of the evidence, they could?

4:15 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Chantal Collin

Yes. It's online.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

We can go online for that.

4:15 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Chantal Collin

Yes, or we can give you the issues and options paper that came before the report.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Okay.

Are you satisfied on that?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Yes. I think that's great.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Okay.

Kellie.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

Mr. Chair, I'd just like to put forward that many of us at this table, myself included, have actually never seen this report, nor would I be comfortable placing my name to a report that I have not seen or did not contribute to.

I first would like to ask the analysts to provide us with that information. If it's available online, that's fabulous. I would not support putting this motion forward until I've seen that documentation, and I'd like to defer this to a discussion in the fall.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Okay.

Just to be clear, this is not asking this committee to adopt the report, it's just asking this committee to receive the evidence and the report for consideration.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

I just ask that the analyst bring us forward with something, and we'll leave it at that.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

All right.

We have this motion. We'll have to vote on this motion. Unless you want to amend it, we'll have to vote on this thing.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Butt Conservative Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

It's helpful, Mr. Chairman. I understand what the parliamentary secretary is trying to say.

I was under the impression this was just a motion that would allow that report to come to this committee for us to consider. Most of us weren't here to hear that evidence and be part of it and whatever.

I'm quite interested in this issue. But if it's only an information report back to the committee and our names aren't one it, we're not part of it, because we didn't adjudicate on it, then I would have no problem withdrawing this motion and coming up with something that is more in line with what Dr. Leitch would like it to say.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Just before we do anything here, let's make sure we have all the right information.

The clerk was mentioning something. Do you want to indicate what you were saying to me?

June 21st, 2011 / 4:15 p.m.

The Clerk

This motion allows for the committee to be able to see what was done in the previous Parliament. It doesn't mean that we adopt the report; it just allows us to bring back from the past what was done so we can study it and resume the study where it was left off.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Okay.

Phil is next, and then we'll come back to Kellie.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brant, ON

I'm totally uncomfortable with saying that we will resume the study. We can accept the information and review it, but this committee needs to talk about a lot of subject matter. If we want to resume this study as part of that discussion, I'm fine with that. But saying we're going to resume this study today without knowing the broader context.... We have new members here. We're just getting briefed on the subject matter and the different programs the committee deals with. To say today that we're going to resume a study is totally inappropriate.

The motion might read that committee members will receive information regarding the previous study, to be discussed when we set our agenda for what we're going to be doing, but not that we're going to resume the study.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

All right.

Kellie.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

Just as Mr. McColeman commented, I am very comfortable with us accepting the information. We've asked for the analysis that's been done, and that's fabulous. But I am very uncomfortable with the statement here that we're resuming a study. I would not support a motion to resume the study that was being done.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Komarnicki

Is there any further discussion?

Carol.

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes NDP Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

To say that we're going to be uncomfortable about a study that was being done, obviously all parties were part of the study. But if you're more comfortable with that, I think we need to bring the information forward. So maybe it should read--and I'll move this--that the committee be provided with the information from the previous study in order to determine if it will finalize the report or consider it as an agenda item for the committee.