Evidence of meeting #30 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was skills.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • Robert Henderson  Executive Director, BioTalent Canada
  • Grant Trump  President and Chief Executive Officer, Environmental Careers Organization of Canada
  • Alain Beaudoin  Director General, Information and Communications Technologies Branch, Department of Industry
  • Shane Williamson  Director General, Program Coordination Branch, Science and Innovation Sector, Department of Industry

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Simcoe—Grey, ON

Very good. Thank you.

March 26th, 2012 / 5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Ed Komarnicki

Thank you.

Thank you very much for presenting.

Mr. Cuzner posed a question, and if it is within the purview of Industry, we'd expect you to respond back. If it is not, respond back indicating that it's not the case. Okay? Thank you very much.

I'll ask the committee to stay back for a moment. I just want to discuss a couple of travel plans before the budget comes in next Wednesday.

With respect to the travel budget—Rodger, you weren't here before we broke for the break week—the Liaison Committee wanted to get a budget for both our eastern travel and our western trip. They wanted to see budgets for both legs of the trip, and the 905 trip, so I've asked the logistics officer to put something together.

On the western trip, we start in Vancouver and end up in Estevan on Thursday. We bring everybody back to Toronto, or wherever you might be going, on Thursday. She had lumped in the Barrie trip that was suggested by the parliamentary secretary on Friday, and I had indicated that we would all be travelling home on Thursday, or wherever we would be going on our points, and that Barrie should be a separate trip by itself, at some other date. So we wanted to split that off.

The other part that you can be thinking about, and I'll ask for comments, was that the western trip has some late-night flights. Since we decided not to go with a charter, it's a little more problematic to arrange flights.

To give you some idea of what it might look like, we would leave Vancouver at 6:30 and arrive in Whitehorse at 8:48, so no problems there. From Whitehorse we need to get to Fort McMurray, and we need to travel through Calgary. So if we left Whitehorse at 7 p.m., we would get to Calgary at 10:37 at night. We could overnight in Calgary or catch the 11:30 flight to be in Fort McMurray at 1:45 a.m.

Now, if you overnight in Calgary, it would mean an extra $5,000 and change, with $800 in flight costs and so on.

Does the committee wish to do a late flight into Fort McMurray or do an early flight to Fort McMurray? I think the early flight would leave at 7:35 in the morning. If you left late and got there late, you would start later.

The rest of the flights aren't too bad. You would get into Regina at 8:51, which would be fine. On the reverse side, getting you back to Toronto, it would be leaving Regina at 6:35, getting into Toronto at 23:38, if that's where you were going, on Thursday night.

So there are some late flights involved. The question specifically is with respect to Fort McMurray, I guess, because I think that one gets you in at 12:45 in the morning.

Do you want to do that or do you want to overnight in Calgary? We have to settle that question so that she can work it accordingly.

Does anybody care...?

Ms. Crowder.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

I'm too old to do the 12:45 a.m. flight. I mean, you won't get into your hotel until 2 o'clock in the morning by the time you leave the airport, get to the hotel, get checked in.

For some people it becomes a health issue, I think. I don't mind the other flights that are at 9 o'clock or 10 o'clock at night, or even 10:30, but when you start getting in at 2 o'clock in the morning, where we can avoid it, I—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Ed Komarnicki

It would be 12:45 a.m.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Yes, exactly.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Kellie Leitch Simcoe—Grey, ON

I'll be really honest with you. I don't want to play doctor on this trip.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Well, exactly.

Honestly, I think it ends up being 14-, 16-, 18-hour days, and I just think it's too much of a health issue.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Ed Komarnicki

So is it the consensus that we do overnight in Calgary and leave in the morning?

Go ahead, Mr. Shory.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Calgary Northeast, AB

Mr. Chair, if I heard it correctly, then we have to leave at 7 a.m.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Ed Komarnicki

It will be 7:35.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Calgary Northeast, AB

So we'll be checking into a hotel for five or six hours.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Ed Komarnicki

Well, you would be arriving in Calgary at 10:37. There is a hotel at the airport, so with all said and done, you'd be in bed by 11:30 and up and ready to go at 7:30.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Calgary Northeast, AB

I'll go home.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Ed Komarnicki

Well, you could.

This was the only flight that concerned me when I saw it. It's after midnight, at 12:30, and that might be pushing it. I think the other nights are late, but they're not pushing it past midnight.

Okay. I take it that the consensus is to overnight in Calgary.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

I don't expect a full schedule from the clerk for now until June, but could we get the next couple of weeks of witnesses, just so we know what's in front of us? It helps us to prepare a little better. I know sometimes that not all the witnesses are confirmed, and I understand the clerk and the analysts are doing incredible jobs trying to get this on. But for whatever we've got scheduled, could we know what it is?

The other thing is that I wonder if we have any confirmation on the estimates yet.