Let must just add, Mr. Chairman, that over my years on this committee--I think Rahim will probably agree with me here--I have never ceased to be surprised about the kind of stuff that comes out. When the lost Canadians first came forward, I was totally flabbergasted. I was sitting on that side of the table the first time Mr. Chapman came here. Genuinely, this was a real shock.
How is it that one can be on this committee and not even know about it, not even be warned by the bureaucrats about it, not even have it raised as a problem that this committee should be looking at to try to redress? When I think about the thousands and thousands of people who have been caught in this, it's downright frightening. We heard from the witnesses about some of the really debilitating situations this puts them in.
So I think we have to hear from them to be able to do a report.