Evidence of meeting #16 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was removal.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Rick Stewart  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Susan Kramer  Director, Inland Enforcement, Canada Border Services Agency
Brenna MacNeil  Director, Social Policy and Programs, Immigration Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Chaplin

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Now we're going to vote on the amendment of Mr. Telegdi, is that what you're saying?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Yes, that's it.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Then you would have to put in there “first time applications”.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

It's that we would insert in the motion “a temporary work permit”.

Mr. Komarnicki.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

I again want to put on the record that it is inconceivable that Mr. Telegdi would ask for information that he deemed was relevant to his motion and this report and, before we have that information, ask a report to go to the House. I find that absolutely incredible. I think it is wrong, and I don't think this motion as amended should proceed until he gets an answer to his question.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Mr. Karygiannis, on a point of order.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I would ask, Chair, that you put the question.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

No, I won't be putting the question until I've heard from everyone I need to hear from.

Mr. Telegdi.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Mr. Chair, I have heard enough in terms of the numbers, and I feel quite comfortable with it—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay.

Let me put the question, please.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

—and I want to underline to Mr. Ed Komarnicki that the big crime here is not having family values on the Conservative side.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

So the question is on the amendment again.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The question is now on the motion as amended.

(Motion as amended agreed to)

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a question.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

If you're asking me if this is to be presented to the House as a report...is that the question?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Yes, sir.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

It's in the motion. Read the motion.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Would the chair tell us when he'll be reporting it?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

As soon as the clerk gets it ready for me.

Read the motion if you want to know what's in it.

Mr. Komarnicki.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

I wish to make a dissenting report to the House on this issue, given my strong feelings that this report ought not be going to the House.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

You're giving notice of a dissenting report.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Right.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

That's permissible as well, with all the usual rules that kick in with respect to dissenting reports.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

What's that? Was it 72 hours or 24 hours?

5:30 p.m.

The Clerk

It's whatever the committee decides.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

The committee has decided already. We have a ruling or a precedent.