Citizenship and Immigration Committee on Feb. 12th, 2009

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

No, no, we'll just go on for a little bit longer here.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

For the parliamentary secretary to say this is not needed, for the parliamentary secretary to come in front of this committee and say it's working and it's fine and dandy and it is not the place of this committee to do so.... I'd like to remind the parliamentary secretary that it was a motion put forward through this committee dealing on Iraq that got the government of the day moving and saying we're going to go to 1,000 people, then another 1,000, and expedited what is happening in Iraq. It was a motion from this chair.

Therefore, Chair, I would like to move--

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Before you do that, Ms. Mendes was actually correct. Technically, we should be debating the amendment, although I'm just letting it all flow. So if we're going to get technical—

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

I'd like to move on the amendment.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

You want to move on the amendment? What do you mean “move on the amendment”?

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

I would like to move on the subamendment and call for a vote.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Oh well, there's a list here. You can't do that.

Ms. Mendes.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

I have a further amendment to perhaps address Dykstra's concerns.

[Olivia Chow, NDP, Trinity—Spadina, ON]

No, you can't.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

Can I?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Sure, you can do it.

Mr. Karygiannis, you have a point of order.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

I was wondering about your comment that you have a list and that you cannot call—

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

No, there's a list here. You can't do that if there's a list.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

Can you check with your clerk if that's the procedure?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Thank you, sir. I will do that.

Your motion is out of order.

Ms. Mendes.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

Okay, but it's another subamendment. So I don't know if I can proceed with this or not.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Sure. Go ahead.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

I would change the wording after “the government should”. Instead of putting “deport no one”, I would say, “declare a moratorium on deportations to Sri Lanka”.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Ms. Mendes, I've been advised that if you wish to make such an amendment, it would be appropriate to do it after we vote on Ms. Chow's amendment.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—La Prairie, QC]

That's exactly what my point was. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Thank you.

I have Mr. Calandra, on the amendment.

[Paul Calandra, Conservative, Oak Ridges—Markham, ON]

Oh, we're speaking to Ms. Chow's amendment. I'm more concerned with the actual main motion.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay, then we'll put that aside.

Is there any further debate on the amendment?

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

On the motion as amended by Ms. Chow.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

The motion as amended by Ms. Chow, which is adding the words—