Citizenship and Immigration Committee on Nov. 28th, 2012

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Mr. Dykstra.

[Rick Dykstra, Conservative, St. Catharines, ON]

It's just a question on procedure. Why would this amendment be in order when LIB-13 has been defeated? It's virtually the same.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

I've been informed because they're different.

[Rick Dykstra, Conservative, St. Catharines, ON]

They're different? Okay.

I feel the same about this as we did about amendment LIB-13.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay, shall amendment NDP-9—

[Jinny Sims, NDP, Newton—North Delta, BC]

A recorded vote, please.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

A recorded vote on the clause, please.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay.

[Jinny Sims, NDP, Newton—North Delta, BC]

I just want to make sure I get it in there.

(Clause 33 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Shall clauses 34 to 38 inclusive carry?

[Jinny Sims, NDP, Newton—North Delta, BC]

Could we do them one at a time, please?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Yes.

(Clause 34 agreed to on division)

Shall clause 35 carry?

[Jinny Sims, NDP, Newton—North Delta, BC]

A recorded vote, please.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Madam Clerk, a recorded vote for clause 35.

[Jinny Sims, NDP, Newton—North Delta, BC]

I just have one quick comment, if I may.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay.

[Jinny Sims, NDP, Newton—North Delta, BC]

Once again, we're a little bit confused as to why the minister would need the power to override a decision when the minister already has the power to set the conditions out in regulations.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

We'll proceed with the vote, Madam Clerk.

(Clause 35 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

(Clause 36 agreed to on division)

(Clause 37 agreed to on division)

Shall clause 38 carry?

[Rathika Sitsabaiesan, NDP, Scarborough—Rouge River, ON]

I would like a recorded vote, please.

(Clause 38 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(On clause 8)

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Ladies and gentlemen, we will return to clause 8, which was stood.

Mr. Dykstra, you have the floor. It's on amendment LIB-5, which is on page 11 of the package.

[Rick Dykstra, Conservative, St. Catharines, ON]

Yes, Chair.

We've had a chance to reflect on this. We are not going to support this amendment, but Mr. Weston has an amendment the government would like to table, at your discretion as to when. We would like to table that amendment, and he will speak to it at that time.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Is it on this clause? Is it an amendment to the amendment, or to the clause?

[Rick Dykstra, Conservative, St. Catharines, ON]

No. This is an amendment that is separate, but comes as a result of some of the arguments that have been presented.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Is it an amendment to clause 8?

[Rick Dykstra, Conservative, St. Catharines, ON]

Are you're talking about amendment LIB-5?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Yes, okay. I have that in front of me. Does the rest of the committee have that?

Amendment LIB-5 is on the table. We're going to deal with that first before we deal with the Conservative amendment, if it's in order.

We will have further debate on LIB-5.

Mr. Lamoureux, go ahead.