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Evidence of meeting #64 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was division.
A video is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #64 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was division.
A video is available from Parliament.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I'm in the middle of saying something, so you'll just have to wait, Mr. Dykstra.
We have a choice of continuing on with this debate, in which case the time would end at 5:30, and in which case there's a risk that we might not be able to report the estimates to the House. You have a choice. If you want me to report the estimates to the House, for sure we need to end that today.
Mr. Lamoureux still has the floor.
We have a point of order from Mr. Dykstra.
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Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
I would like to know why we didn't have to get a notice of this motion.
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A voice
I can explain—
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Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
I'm sure you can, but I want to hear it from the clerk.
Can I get a copy of it?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
It's on the subject that we're dealing with today, and the motion is in order.
Mr. Lamoureux, you still have the floor.
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
As I was saying, I do believe there's merit for this motion. We can take a look at the supplementary estimates that the Minister of Immigration is trying to get through. As we saw during the whole question and answer period, there's a lot of focus on the interim health financing. The minister is saying that he needs another $5 million plus. When he made the announcement, there was the impression that it was going to be saving literally millions of dollars.
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Conservative
Ted Opitz Conservative Etobicoke Centre, ON
Mr. Chair, Mr. Lamoureux is going over the minister's statement. He's not really talking to the motion at all.
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
We need to be able to get a better understanding of those raw numbers. The only way in which we can do that, maybe, is if we get a better picture.
The motion might help facilitate that, because there have been inconsistencies throughout, whether it's in dealing with the money issue or in dealing with the policy announcement itself and what the actual policy is today. Yesterday I stood up in question period and cited examples. Because of confusion, there are children who are not being given the health care they require. It's because of the confusion. This would help clear up the confusion, I believe.
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NDP
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
I'm going to withdraw it. Actually, I think Mr. Dykstra was ahead of me. I'm okay just to vote on this motion.
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Conservative
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NDP
Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC
A recorded vote, please.
(Motion negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Department
Vote 1b—Operating expenditures..........$1,220,428
Shall vote 1b under Citizenship and Immigration carry?
(Vote 1b agreed to)
Shall vote 7b under Citizenship and Immigration carry?
Vote 7b—Pursuant to section 25(2) of the Financial Administration Act..........$442,013
(Vote 7b agreed to)
Shall I report the supplementary estimates to the House?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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An hon. member
No.
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Liberal