Thank you. That's what I thought you said.
I'd also like to follow up on what you said about how hard it is to access protection measures and services. I believe all three of you mentioned that. Earlier, one of my colleagues said that a woman's initial reflex would probably be to call the police. That's not true. Given how things work in certain countries or the experiences these women have had, they won't react by calling the police.
I have here the information sheet that CIC provides to sponsored individuals who request it. The document says that, if the person is suffering from abuse and wants to request an exception to the conditional permanent residence measure, they should contact CIC's call centre at the number provided.
But one witness told us that the call centre wasn't suited to that kind of call. The witness said that the person could wait on hold for a long time and that, in some cases, a CIC representative had to call the woman back. Women in abusive situations can't always leave a phone number where they can be reached or wait on hold for long periods of time.
What are your thoughts on those comments? What kinds of services would make things easier for women who want to report abuse or seek help?
The question is for the three of you.