To adjourn debate.
Evidence of meeting #77 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was lands.
A video is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #77 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was lands.
A video is available from Parliament.
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A voice
To adjourn debate.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Just to clarify, were you asking to adjourn debate?
If I continue moving through my list, Mr. Zimmer is next.
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NDP
Lori Idlout NDP Nunavut, NU
I prefer to vote right now so we can get back to the study. We are currently stealing time from our witnesses and from this study.
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Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
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Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
Just to be clear, I didn't hear Ms. Idlout ask to adjourn the debate; I heard that from the clerk. That's putting words into Ms. Idlout's mouth. I had a question still to ask and some points to make about the motion that is on the table right now. To presuppose there was no longer any discussion necessary for this motion is incorrect.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
I would say that Ms. Idlout, in the clarification I asked for, did say that she was asking for the debate to be adjourned. I am ready to call the question. That is a motion that requires to be dispensed with.
If the debate is adjourned, it will be able to be brought forward again, and the debate can then carry on. We'll keep the list with you next on the list, but for right now, the motion I have before me is that the debate be adjourned, so I'm going to call it.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB
I think the motion to adjourn debate and the motion to call the question are two different motions. I need to be clear. Are we calling the question? I would be okay with that. I would happily have a vote on this right now—which is what I heard from Lori, that she would like to have the vote right now. Although it deprives Ben and Mr. Zimmer of their speaking opportunities, I would happily take a vote on this motion right now.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Okay. I'll go back for clarification to Ms. Idlout about her comments.
Were you looking at the debate being adjourned or calling the question on the motion?
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NDP
Lori Idlout NDP Nunavut, NU
I think the debate should be adjourned. We can discuss the motion later, after this study is over.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
We'll keep the list alive.
The vote is on the motion to adjourn the debate.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
The debate is adjourned for now. It will be able to be brought forward again. I have noted that we have Mr. Zimmer and Mr. Carr next on the list when it does come back. I will get our clerk to keep track of that.
We're going back to our questions. I have Mr. Battiste up for six minutes.
The floor is yours.
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Liberal
Jaime Battiste Liberal Sydney—Victoria, NS
Thank you for your patience with those administrative duties.
My question is for Stephen Augustine—
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Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
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An hon. member
Bob, what the hell...?
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Conservative
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Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
Mr. Battiste made some comments. I'm just not sure I was clear on what he actually said there.
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Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
Well, anyway, it's an interesting choice of words.
Mr. Chair, Mr. Viersen still had a question, and I wonder what happened to that question time.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Well, in any other committee I've been with, when the clock starts, they take the floor. The clock runs. We reach the end of the six minutes, and then we move to the next questioner. If this committee deals with it differently.... I've generally had the clock run through and then we move to the next person in the sequence of questioning.
The reality is that we have an hour. We have 20 minutes left for questioning. We've spent 15 or 20 minutes on this piece. I have 18 minutes of questions where parties haven't yet had the floor.
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
We're pretty sure he still gets his time, but....
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Our clerk has indicated that this would be allowed. I'm going to follow up. Don't take this is as a precedent for my future rulings, but we'll go through the four rounds of questions at six minutes each, and we'll get clarification for the next time this comes up.
Mr. Viersen, by the time you moved the motion, about 10 seconds were gone, so I'll give you just under six minutes.